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Old 12-02-2010, 05:43 AM   #106
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Re: Why are Scandinavian players so much more "fearless" than the rest of the world?Religion?

Obviously there are correlations between being more intelligent and better educated, and winning at poker.

Similarly being more intelligent and better educated correlates with increased atheism.

Atheists, on average, will do better at poker than Christians because they are smarter. And a decent number of them are in Scandiland.
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Old 12-02-2010, 05:45 AM   #107
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Re: Why are Scandinavian players so much more "fearless" than the rest of the world?Religion?

there smart and dont care to much if they go broke, no wonder they crush .
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Old 12-02-2010, 06:31 AM   #108
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Re: Why are Scandinavian players so much more "fearless" than the rest of the world?Religion?

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Do you mean apart from the completely obvious ones?

Poker is a game where logic and critical analysis (among other things) are rewarded with success. Religion is a game where critical analysis and the ability to challenge irrational conclusios is actively discouraged and in some cases forbidden.

In Poker, we see non-sensical lines and we remain sceptical of any information put to us; in Religion the same treatment would've got you burnt at the stake for being a heretic throughout history; now you're only threatened with eternal torture.

No you're right - no relationship at all :P
this is a pretty myopic view of both religion and poker. In your vast knowledge of those stake burning days, were you aware that people of faith were essential in maintaing the wisdom that mankind had amassed.

as to the question as to the reason scandies are good at poker; imo if there is a connection:

it isn't that not believing in god makes an individual more likely to succeed in poker, its the reasons, that they don't believe in god, that contribute to some underlying cultural development that lead to good poker players, and the fact that the populations are fairly small and isolated helped maintain conformity within the region or at least not diversity
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Old 12-02-2010, 06:35 AM   #109
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Re: Why are Scandinavian players so much more "fearless" than the rest of the world?Religion?

That socialism = good at poker is probably not true because of social security or because of high education levels (cause good poker players are usually not that into school to begin with), it may however increase the level of play for example in Norway where poker is illegal - just by the fact that to play poker you cant just walk into a casino, you actually have to seek out an underground enviroment, which excludes the worst players and make the good players have to adjust solely against other good or semi-good players.

Its probably got nothing to do with atheism, all though alot more people here dont belive in silly fairytales from the mideast obviously..
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Old 12-02-2010, 07:43 AM   #110
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Re: Why are Scandinavian players so much more "fearless" than the rest of the world?Religion?

most of the time it's dark and cold. people got to be tough growing up there.
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Old 12-02-2010, 07:53 AM   #111
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Re: Why are Scandinavian players so much more "fearless" than the rest of the world?Religion?

I think Scandinavians have a mentality that is different as the rest of the world. They are less emotional in general. This makes a good poker player as he's less likely to tilt or make bad mistakes when not feeling optimal.

To say that non-religion or social security is the reason Scandinavians are good in poker is probably not right. It's not just Scandinavia where the far majority of people do not hold any religion, it's all of Western Europe. This has been a trend for a long time. My grandfather always tells about the time where his whole village went to church etc, nowadays most churches are empty. All countries in Western Europe also have a similar social security system as in Scandinavia.
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Old 12-02-2010, 08:59 AM   #112
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I think Scandinavians have a mentality that is different as the rest of the world. They are less emotional in general. This makes a good poker player as he's less likely to tilt or make bad mistakes when not feeling optimal.

To say that non-religion or social security is the reason Scandinavians are good in poker is probably not right. It's not just Scandinavia where the far majority of people do not hold any religion, it's all of Western Europe. This has been a trend for a long time. My grandfather always tells about the time where his whole village went to church etc, nowadays most churches are empty. All countries in Western Europe also have a similar social security system as in Scandinavia.

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I work with quite a few people from the different Nordic countries and they are, on average, WAY less emotional than other Europeans.
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Old 12-02-2010, 09:11 AM   #113
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Re: Why are Scandinavian players so much more "fearless" than the rest of the world?Religion?

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this is a pretty myopic view of both religion and poker. In your vast knowledge of those stake burning days, were you aware that people of faith were essential in maintaing the wisdom that mankind had amassed.
lololol... That's actually the answer you want to run with? :> Religion has been the single biggest cause of wisdom being lost / destroyed / delayed / hidden in history, and it's not even close.
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Old 12-02-2010, 09:13 AM   #114
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Re: Why are Scandinavian players so much more "fearless" than the rest of the world?Religion?

I just had to chime in and say that the title really made me laugh. What does religion have to do with poker and aren't Scandinavian countries Christian?
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Old 12-02-2010, 09:17 AM   #115
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Old 12-02-2010, 10:06 AM   #116
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Re: Why are Scandinavian players so much more "fearless" than the rest of the world?Religion?

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Obviously there are correlations between being more intelligent and better educated, and winning at poker.

Similarly being more intelligent and better educated correlates with increased atheism.

Atheists, on average, will do better at poker than Christians because they are smarter. And a decent number of them are in Scandiland.
This.

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Old 12-02-2010, 10:42 AM   #117
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[Finland] got little to no help from the west. Before, during and after WWII.
Tell that to the millions of allied troops that died fighting to prevent the spread of Nazism.
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Old 12-02-2010, 10:53 AM   #118
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Re: Why are Scandinavian players so much more "fearless" than the rest of the world?Religion?

I think OP is on to something here.

Aggressive and fearless play often means that you are representing a stronger hand than you are actually holding. Thus, you are lying about the strength of it.
And since religious people are more likely to have gotten raised properly, it doesnt come natural to them to lie.
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:27 AM   #119
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I don't wanna come off like an ******* saying athiests are smarter than religious people, because theyre are plenty of great religious poker players, and smart people, but I think many atheists see the world from a much wider scope than religious people, which may lead to more creativity and problem solving at the table. the fearless thing isnt true imo because Brazilians are fearless too, but have a huge religious population
brazilians are fearless ?
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:56 AM   #120
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Re: Why are Scandinavian players so much more "fearless" than the rest of the world?Religion?

less religiosity is an indicator for a well educated society, I think one could build a relation.
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