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Old 02-13-2010, 12:13 AM   #121
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Re: Why is Mason Malmuth so hated in the poker industry?

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It looks as though Mason is suggesting Gary Wise was offering to sell 2+2 exposure through some kind of back door deal as a journalist?

If that is what he's suggesting, I'm guessing that, as a publisher himself, Mason would regard that as an unethical practice -- firstly because it's a breach of journalistic ethics to take money to influence your content, and secondly because it's the publisher's job to sell the advertising, and not for a journalist to cut some behind the scenes deal that deprives the publisher of revenue.

Also, I wouldn't be overly fond of people who go on air saying that they despise me either.
I don't think he was soliciting a bribe to write favorably about us. However, he was offering us a deal that we considered ridiculous. It showed that he was either totally unaware of the relative positions of our respected websites or was just trying to pull a fast one. Essentially, what he was asking for amounted to free advertising.

Normally we just reject these offers out of hand, but once in a while I'll go into more specific detail explaining how absurd we consider these solicitations, and that is what I did with Gary Wise. Evidently he took it personally. Meanwhile, our general policy is to avoid future contact with people when they make these type of offers.

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Old 02-13-2010, 02:42 AM   #122
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Sort of. I actually own a few thousand copies of the same shirt.

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Old 02-13-2010, 03:19 AM   #123
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Old 02-13-2010, 04:20 AM   #124
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Did I miss something? I listen to several poker and gambling podcasts and every time his name comes up, one of the hosts slams him. I was listening to one today and they were talking about the 2010 BLUFF Power 20 and they said he didn't make the list because he's not well-liked. I know it's not a large sample but I've never really heard anyone say anything good about him.
What did or does he do to piss so many people off?


Not sure about all this other stuff posted above....I just thought it was the company he kept



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Old 02-13-2010, 04:47 AM   #125
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I'm not sure whether I'd include anyone from 2+2 in the top 20 as individuals, but I definitely wouldn't include them in the top 10.
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Old 02-13-2010, 05:53 AM   #126
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remember that little annoying pos in your class that was mr no it all ? ya the one when the teacher asked a question and he was always the first one with his hand up " i know i know pick me "

and then when having discussions with friends he always came out of no where to correct you guys and was usually condescending and came off slighlty arrogant ?

he also uses money to belittle ppl and always thinks hes right and will not admit when hes wrong but instead try to spin it off into semantics and what not.


so iv heard no personal opinion of him tho
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Old 02-13-2010, 05:59 AM   #127
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thinly veiled olive branch being crushed ITT
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Old 02-13-2010, 06:50 AM   #128
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I opened this thread just to see if this thread was posted, it is my single favorite thread in 2+2 history.

Anyone new (and by "new" I guess I really mean anyone who hasn't been here for over 4 years) to the forum should do themselves a favor and read through it, despite its length.
This. I don't think I've ever seen someone soulcrushed to the extent mason was in that thread. El Diablo in his prime.
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Old 02-13-2010, 07:34 AM   #129
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Dandruff and micon don't like him.
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Old 02-13-2010, 08:56 AM   #130
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I don't think he was soliciting a bribe to write favorably about us. However, he was offering us a deal that we considered ridiculous.
Thanks for the clarification.
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Old 02-18-2010, 01:29 PM   #131
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randomness - i don't have time to infract you right now but you need to stop with your dumb hand analysis in this thread. thanks.
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Old 02-18-2010, 03:00 PM   #132
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I think it has to do with the way he communicates with people. He might be a knowledgeable poker player, author, and website owner. However, he might be lacking in the social skills department...just based on my short interactions with him.
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Old 02-18-2010, 03:27 PM   #133
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Dandruff and micon don't like him.
Which means nothing.
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Old 02-18-2010, 03:46 PM   #134
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Mason seems cool.

Haters Gonna Hate, etc
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Old 02-18-2010, 05:54 PM   #135
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I don't think he was soliciting a bribe to write favorably about us. However, he was offering us a deal that we considered ridiculous. It showed that he was either totally unaware of the relative positions of our respected websites or was just trying to pull a fast one. Essentially, what he was asking for amounted to free advertising.

Normally we just reject these offers out of hand, but once in a while I'll go into more specific detail explaining how absurd we consider these solicitations, and that is what I did with Gary Wise. Evidently he took it personally. Meanwhile, our general policy is to avoid future contact with people when they make these type of offers.

Best wishes,
Mason

It sounds like you were personally insulted because he made an unrealistic offer for a business relationship.

Unless you're leaving some key details out (ie: he was suggesting you two do something illegal or at least highly unethical), that doesnt seem like a good reason to cut off contact with someone and put them on your **** list.

It's also petty to hide behind 'general policy', when you're the one who makes the general policy.


Is there something else that went on behind the scenes, or is this all because you were insulted by his offer?
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