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03-10-2010, 03:57 AM
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grinder
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 583
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Re: What were the 2+2 forums like in the beginning?
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Originally Posted by The4thFilm
The forums were a lot softer back then.
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Solid gold. POTY
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03-10-2010, 04:04 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,033
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Re: What were the 2+2 forums like in the beginning?
I have been on 2p2 since the late 90s - back then there were no subforums, just one big forum. OOT was mostly poker related trip reports, not the kind of weird stuff it is now. Dynasty and Clarkmeister were the big posters. A classic post that maybe people don't remember that well is Fossilman posting both here and RGP, looking for (I think) $500 shares and creating a backing group, that was still active when he ended up winning the ME.
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03-10-2010, 05:02 AM
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#18
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: RIP Reef and Merek
Posts: 24,547
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Re: What were the 2+2 forums like in the beginning?
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Originally Posted by Tom Gunn
Alot of limit holdem back then. Jim Brier put of some great stuff, he had a great poker mind. Greg raymer was another one that could analyse most hand perfectly. Quality of post were more important than quanity of post. Just my opinion.
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i love seeing old accounts with double digit post counts. ty for chiming in sir <3 im now going to read all of your others out of boredom
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03-10-2010, 05:07 AM
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#19
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old hand
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 1,245
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Re: What were the 2+2 forums like in the beginning?
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Posted by: Tom Haley (CodeSavvy@acm.org)
Posted on: Thursday, 30 December 1999, at 10:21 a.m.
I want to make something clear about my post, I am not condemning Internet poker. A more useful discussion than condemning it out of hand in my mind would be discussing strategy implications. For instance, say you have a good hand on the turn like AKo, the top card is a K, there is a two straight, two flush on the board, you bet and get raised. Should you go offline, call the raise and go offline if you miss hitting your kicker or King on the river should you fold, should you just pay it off, should you go offline? I bring this up because I believe it has implications on bluffing in general. I am thinking that one might conclude that it isn't worth playing for those reasons. Then again maybe it makes the game better I don't know because I haven't thought it through. Please elaborate Vince because I believe your thoughts would be useful in this area.
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Posted by: C. Villalobos (zardoz@micron.net)
Posted on: Thursday, 30 December 1999, at 10:41 p.m.
Usually, the players police the games pretty well. You can make comments if you suspect that someone is trying it. "Don't do it" sometimes brings them back. I've never tried the Off-line move myself. Though it might have saved me, or made me, some extra dough.
Later, CV
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Posted by: Dick Martin
Posted on: Thursday, 30 December 1999, at 11:53 p.m.
This angle is hard to make into much more than a one big bet coup. The times it's done with a weak and suspected inferior hand are probably spots where the move is wasted. The hand they go all in with is really no good but they almost want to call.
It's possible to imagine a drawing situation where you have pot equity of almost 2 big bets and are faced with calling two or three big bets. These will be rare.
Online poker scares the hell out of me. I took the $50 freeroll offered by poker.com and knocked around enough to be very uncomfortable. They're sending me a check. The Easter Bunny will be delivering it. Still, a freeroll. I'm busted out now and they won't be getting my credit card number.
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Appearantly there was something that was called "the offline move" back than..
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03-10-2010, 05:12 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Hater gonna hate!
Posts: 4,874
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Re: What were the 2+2 forums like in the beginning?
Man there were so many idiot naysayer old men who would go on and on about how online poker was rigged, everyone was colluding, only a fool would player there.
It was ridiculous, teenagers were making more money in a year then these guys would make in their entire poker playing lifetimes and they kept insisting that it was foolish to play online.
I remember there was this Vince guy who was particularly annoying. He was a big David Sklansky apologist, played live 15-30 LHE. Can't remember his full name anymore.
Oh yeah Vince Lepore, I remember now. I wonder whatever happened to him...
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03-10-2010, 05:17 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 1,245
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Re: What were the 2+2 forums like in the beginning?
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Posted by: rayfish (ray_springfield@msn.com)
Posted on: Thursday, 30 December 1999, at 11:41 a.m.
I PLAYED YESTERDAY AND MY CONNECTION WAS SO BAD THAT HTE 1ST TIME i WAS KICKED OFF i HAD A FLOPPED SET, THE OTHER 2 TIMES WERE CLEAR LOSERS, NEVERTHELESS, THE SET BOATED AND i WON A MINIMAL MAIN POT INSTEAD OF 300. a 56K CONNECTION IS JUST THE PITS. i'LL HAVE A DSL LINE SOON AND THIS SHOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM. THE TRUE CHEATING ONLINE COMES IN THE FORM OF COLLUSION, OR CRACKING THE CODE(PLANET POKER GAVE EVERYBODY THEIRS), SO THAT INDIVIDUALS RAM AND JAM WITH TOTAL TRASH AND KNOW THEY WILL SUCK OUT ANYWAY.
I STILL BELIEVE THAT MOST ONLINE PROGRAMS, WILSON SOFTWARE INCLUDED, FALL INTO PATTERNS IN HAND DISTRIBUTION THAT ARE NOT RANDOM. 4 CARD FLUSHES HAVE PREDOMINATED PLANET POKER AND PARADISE POKER. IT DOESN'T TAKE 2 MANY k-qS FLUSHES ON THE TURN TO BE BURNED BY A-2o in a fully jammed pot to convince you that some players know what the cards are going to be.
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the forum also already had it's fair share of idiots back than, he must have focused on his keyboard the whole time untill he realized he had his caps lock on somewhere around the word "A-2o" haha
the content of his post is also quite lol
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03-10-2010, 06:04 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: RIP Reef and Merek
Posts: 24,547
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Re: What were the 2+2 forums like in the beginning?
the offline move is just abusing disconnect protection
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03-10-2010, 06:09 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: holdin' a big pair
Posts: 8,451
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Re: What were the 2+2 forums like in the beginning?
we used to get cake on our birthdays
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03-10-2010, 06:20 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: sitting on a beach, earning 20%
Posts: 1,720
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Re: What were the 2+2 forums like in the beginning?
Genesis 1
The Beginning
3 And Mason said, "Let there be forums," and there were forums. 4 Mason saw that the forums were good, and He separated the forums from the darkness. 5 Mason called the light "twoplustwo," and the darkness we called "pocketfives."
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03-10-2010, 06:58 AM
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adept
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Sniffin me hole cards
Posts: 1,062
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Re: What were the 2+2 forums like in the beginning?
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Posted by: rayfish (ray_springfield@msn.com)
Posted on: Thursday, 30 December 1999, at 11:41 a.m.
I PLAYED YESTERDAY AND MY CONNECTION WAS SO BAD THAT HTE 1ST TIME i WAS KICKED OFF i HAD A FLOPPED SET, THE OTHER 2 TIMES WERE CLEAR LOSERS, NEVERTHELESS, THE SET BOATED AND i WON A MINIMAL MAIN POT INSTEAD OF 300. a 56K CONNECTION IS JUST THE PITS. i'LL HAVE A DSL LINE SOON AND THIS SHOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM. THE TRUE CHEATING ONLINE COMES IN THE FORM OF COLLUSION, OR CRACKING THE CODE(PLANET POKER GAVE EVERYBODY THEIRS), SO THAT INDIVIDUALS RAM AND JAM WITH TOTAL TRASH AND KNOW THEY WILL SUCK OUT ANYWAY.
I STILL BELIEVE THAT MOST ONLINE PROGRAMS, WILSON SOFTWARE INCLUDED, FALL INTO PATTERNS IN HAND DISTRIBUTION THAT ARE NOT RANDOM. 4 CARD FLUSHES HAVE PREDOMINATED PLANET POKER AND PARADISE POKER. IT DOESN'T TAKE 2 MANY k-qS FLUSHES ON THE TURN TO BE BURNED BY A-2o in a fully jammed pot to convince you that some players know what the cards are going to be.
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So shouting on the internut was invented in the 19th century dam
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03-10-2010, 08:04 AM
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veteran
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,401
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Re: What were the 2+2 forums like in the beginning?
a bunch of old people talking about poo flinging.
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03-10-2010, 08:07 AM
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adept
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: browsing NVG
Posts: 1,146
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Re: What were the 2+2 forums like in the beginning?
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Originally Posted by Under dog
So shouting on the internut was invented in the 19th century dam
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20th century
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03-10-2010, 08:10 AM
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#28
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adept
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Sniffin me hole cards
Posts: 1,062
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Re: What were the 2+2 forums like in the beginning?
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Originally Posted by Posemuckel
20th century 
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trouser leggings
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03-10-2010, 08:56 AM
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#29
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journeyman
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Are You Experienced?
Posts: 222
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Re: What were the 2+2 forums like in the beginning?
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Originally Posted by Your Mom
elysium was my fav
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Anything Elysium said was pure gold.
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03-10-2010, 09:06 AM
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veteran
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ON XMAS EVE, SAINT NICHOLAS COMES
Posts: 2,755
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Re: What were the 2+2 forums like in the beginning?
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Originally Posted by the_main
we used to get cake on our birthdays
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wish the new forums still did this it was so festive
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