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Old 05-28-2011, 07:08 PM   #16
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Re: Fight for Poker Rights: Weekend of May 28th (see post #1 for today's plan)

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I'm not trying to derail the thread. I'm just asking questions. I'm hurt because of black friday as well. Nobody respects us. They think we are all gamblers and idiots.
Personally, I think you're a shill for some American based company.
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Old 05-28-2011, 07:25 PM   #17
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I understand, but will you ever trust online company's that are not USA based?

I don't think I could ever deposit again, my money is safe in my hands.

The trust is gone.
PartyGaming is probably the only non-US based online company that will benefit from legislation. The winners are gonna be MGM/Caesar's/Wynn, land-based casinos headquartered in the United States.
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Old 05-28-2011, 07:29 PM   #18
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Personally, I think you're a shill for some American based company.
I have trust issues with people who **** me/screw over me. One time and your done. I won't feel safe, like I feel safe with boxes in casino's. I know the feds will never kick in the door/freeze my money. I used think my online money was offshore/safe away from the feds. Come to realize my funds where in the US the whole time. The idiots where buying golf-balls and jewelry.


Don't try to throw me down under/mistake me for a troll. I'm just stating facts.

PokahBlows: because my accounts are done.
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Old 05-28-2011, 07:35 PM   #19
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Re: Fight for Poker Rights: Weekend of May 28th (see post #1 for today's plan)

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I have trust issues with people who **** me/screw over me. One time and your done. I won't feel safe, like I feel safe with boxes in casino's. I know the feds will never kick in the door/freeze my money. I used think my online money was offshore/safe away from the feds. Come to realize my funds where in the US the whole time. The idiots where buying golf-balls and jewelry.


Don't try to throw me down under/mistake me for a troll. I'm just stating facts.

PokahBlows: because my accounts are done.
Then this is the effort for you. The legislation in Congress brings U.S. based sites online and gives us the force of law in protecting our money.
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Old 05-28-2011, 07:36 PM   #20
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Our future is wsop.com, bellagio.com. I can't wait till online is back.
That's exactly what this effort does. So, please go back to the OP and pitch in with the action items to help make this reality.
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Old 05-28-2011, 07:51 PM   #21
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That's exactly what this effort does. So, please go back to the OP and pitch in with the action items to help make this reality.
I commend your efforts in everyone else. I'm just glad we are going to get our money.

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Old 05-28-2011, 09:07 PM   #22
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Re: Fight for Poker Rights: Weekend of May 28th (see post #1 for today's plan)

Just spent about 30 minutes emailing and posting. Thanks for starting this OP.

Imo, you would get a better response if you did this during the work week and not a holiday weekend.
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Old 05-28-2011, 09:10 PM   #23
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Just spent about 30 minutes emailing and posting. Thanks for starting this OP.

Imo, you would get a better response if you did this during the work week and not the weekend.
Been doing it every day. This is just the first day in NVG. There is also an anouncement at the top of ALL of the forums with the same post. Make sure to visit everyday for what the next move is.
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Old 05-29-2011, 01:42 AM   #24
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Re: Fight for Poker Rights: Weekend of May 28th (see post #1 for today's plan)

Let's all "like" the pro-poker posts on the House Financial Services Committee's FB page. I just made a post myself, at http://www.facebook.com/GOPFinancial...50612574020136.
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Old 05-29-2011, 12:28 PM   #25
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Posted... pls *like*.
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Old 05-29-2011, 12:28 PM   #26
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I feel so dirty now.
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Old 05-29-2011, 12:30 PM   #27
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The Facebook posts are really gaining traction. I hope we'll all visit the relevant pages and make ourselves heard:
  • The House Financial Services Committee's Facebook page is here.
  • Let's get some posts on the House Committee on Energy and Commerce page (here)
  • The Dept. of Justice's page is here.
  • Senators' FB pages: Senator Facebook Listing
  • We need lots of posts on the issue of poker and lots of "liking" of pro-poker comments.
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Old 05-29-2011, 01:55 PM   #28
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Fact: PPA got a large majority of their 'funding' from the offshore sites like FTP and PS.

Fact: While They claim to be for the poker players but in reality their actions speak more to being shills to their backers (the sites_ with no accountablity against the offshore sites

Fact: The truth is the PPA only recently decided to try and focus on the players in this country post Black Friday because they lost their cash cow in the sites. Most PPA members arent paid members and now the PPA needs players funds to support their activites but you dont see the PPA coming out and hammering the sites for not paying (cant bite the hand that fed them in the past).

Fact: Reality is the PPA is nothing but an impotent organization which after years has proven to be ineffective for poker players and being the voice of poker players. The should change their name to the OPPA since they only seem to be focused with online poker players and even that is questionable.
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Old 05-29-2011, 02:43 PM   #29
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Re: Fight for Poker Rights: Weekend of May 28th (see post #1 for today's plan)

Nice to see this thread in NVG. Of course there will be more useless arguing here, but I expect it to be positive overall.

The facebook stuff has been going great. Now that there is a thread here, I would love to see a couple of hundred "likes" for pro-poker posts. Take a few minutes to do this stuff, then a few more minutes to tell all your friends.
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Old 05-29-2011, 03:20 PM   #30
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Not a PPA spokesman.

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Fact: PPA got a large majority of their 'funding' from the offshore sites like FTP and PS..
Players only donated about 50k to the PPA last year. That would only be enough to hire 1 low tier lobbyist. Where else would they have got their funding? Casinos only recently started fighting for legislation. Yahoo, Facebook, and many others that stand to make a lot of money didn't contribute, as a mater of fact they opposed us. FoF also scared a lot of people away.

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Fact: While They claim to be for the poker players but in reality their actions speak more to being shills to their backers (the sites_ with no accountablity against the offshore sites.
PPA supported Reid 1/2 that banned these sites for a minimum of 3 years. That in itself disproves this.

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Fact: The truth is the PPA only recently decided to try and focus on the players in this country post Black Friday because they lost their cash cow in the sites. .
Before black friday, helping the sites meant helping the player, even though the PPA never focused on offshore operators as you claim. The sites offered what the player wanted. The PPA lobbied to allow players to play, and since the only people not opposing us were the sites, obviously the players and the poker sites interests we aligned. PPA supported Reid 1/2 and would snap call a interstate bill that bans PS/FTP forever both now and in the past.

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Most PPA members arent paid members and now the PPA needs players funds to support their activites.
PPA needs way more then what players have given. The PPA wouldn't exist if it only operated on player donations.

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but you dont see the PPA coming out and hammering the sites for not paying (cant bite the hand that fed them in the past). .
PPA publicly called the poker sites to return funds. What would you like a small US, consisting of mainly volunteers, lobbying firm to do about companies that do business in Antigua? An agreement was reached, everything is on the poker sites to return funds.

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Fact: Reality is the PPA is nothing but an impotent organization which after years has proven to be ineffective for poker players and being the voice of poker players. The should change their name to the OPPA since they only seem to be focused with online poker players and even that is questionable.
The PPA is a very small lobbying organization. It would be impossible them them to push anything through without help from an organization like the AGA. Even with all of the positive support from these gambling groups, loss of other companies lobbying against us like the NFL, and the public outburst over this issue that resulted in nearly 100k emails(thanks to the PPA), this is still an uphill battle.

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