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Old 04-20-2015, 01:58 PM   #1
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WCGRider, Dong Kim, Jason Les and Bjorn Li to play against a new HU bot

Man vs. Machine: Four Poker Pros Scheduled to Play Heads-Up against Computer Program 'Claudico'

Two-Week Long Human vs. AI Game to be Lived-Streamed at 'Poker Night in America' Website and Broadcast Later on CBS Sports Network.

Source: Nolan Dalla. http://www.nolandalla.com/man-vs-mac...or-a-computer/
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Old 04-20-2015, 02:10 PM   #2
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Re: WCGRider and Dong Kim to play against a new HU bot

$100 on Claudico.
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Old 04-20-2015, 02:12 PM   #3
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Re: WCGRider and Dong Kim to play against a new HU bot

So who's the favorite here?
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Old 04-20-2015, 02:31 PM   #4
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Re: WCGRider and Dong Kim to play against a new HU bot

im guessing this is no limit? should be interesting
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Old 04-20-2015, 02:33 PM   #5
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Re: WCGRider and Dong Kim to play against a new HU bot

change title to wcgrider and big dick to play against a new HU bot

some people might not know who dong is
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Old 04-20-2015, 02:46 PM   #6
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Re: WCGRider and Dong Kim to play against a new HU bot

Bot is gonna be the dog here, IMO
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Old 04-20-2015, 02:47 PM   #7
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Re: WCGRider and Dong Kim to play against a new HU bot

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Old 04-20-2015, 02:55 PM   #8
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Rigged!
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Old 04-20-2015, 02:58 PM   #9
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Re: WCGRider and Dong Kim to play against a new HU bot

Why is DANMERRR not playing this bot? Surely his edge should be bigger
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Old 04-20-2015, 03:13 PM   #10
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Re: WCGRider and Dong Kim to play against a new HU bot

If it's NL I think wcg and donger will absolutely destroy the bot. If it's HULHE then this wouldn't even take place since wcg and donger know they couldn't beat the bot.

So yeah..
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Old 04-20-2015, 03:18 PM   #11
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It's hu no-limit
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Old 04-20-2015, 03:22 PM   #12
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Re: WCGRider and Dong Kim to play against a new HU bot

This isn't really a new bot per se. It's probably a new iteration of "Tartanian7" who won the NL portion of the 2014 Computer Poker Competition.

From the Computer Poker Competition 2014 Participants Page...

"Tartanian7 plays an approximate Nash equilibrium strategy that was computed on Pittsburgh's shared-memory supercomputer, which has a cache coherent Non-Uniform Memory Access (ccNUMA) architecture. We developed a new abstraction algorithm and a new equilibrium-finding algorithm that enabled us to perform a massive equilibrium computation on this architecture.

The abstraction algorithm first clusters public flop boards, assigning each cluster to a blade on the supercomputer. These public clusters are computed by clustering using a distance function based on how often our abstraction from last year grouped hands together on the flop with different sets of public cards. Within each cluster, the algorithm then buckets the flop, turn, and river hands that are possible given one of the public flops in the cluster, using an imperfect-recall abstraction algorithm. We did not perform any abstraction for the preflop round.

Our equilibrium-finding algorithm is a modified version of external-sampling MCCFR. It samples one pair of preflop hands per iteration. For the postflop, each blade samples community cards from its public cluster and performs MCCFR in parallel. The samples are weighted to remove bias.

Our agent also uses a novel reverse mapping technique that compensates for the failure of CFR to fully converge and to possibly overfit the strategies to the abstraction."
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Old 04-20-2015, 03:34 PM   #13
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Re: WCGRider and Dong Kim to play against a new HU bot

I feel like people are greatly overestimating how far removed limit and no limit HU really are.
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Old 04-20-2015, 03:37 PM   #14
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Re: WCGRider and Dong Kim to play against a new HU bot

These players shouldn't give away top tier strategy imo
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Old 04-20-2015, 03:41 PM   #15
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Put me in coach
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Old 04-20-2015, 03:44 PM   #16
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Re: WCGRider and Dong Kim to play against a new HU bot

Ugh streamed and broadcast?

Sounds like this could have some pretty bad ramifications if the bot were to win or do well.

Hopefully the bot get crushed.
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Old 04-20-2015, 03:44 PM   #17
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Re: WCGRider and Dong Kim to play against a new HU bot

stacksize? cash / sngs?
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Old 04-20-2015, 03:49 PM   #18
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Re: WCGRider and Dong Kim to play against a new HU bot

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change title to dog pork and big dick to play against a new HU bot

some people might not know who dong is
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Old 04-20-2015, 03:53 PM   #19
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Looking to bet on the empire, PM me.
Whoa guys, we got a hotshot gambler over here.

You really walk the line bro.
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Old 04-20-2015, 03:57 PM   #20
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Re: WCGRider and Dong Kim to play against a new HU bot

when is this happening ?
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Old 04-20-2015, 04:45 PM   #21
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Re: WCGRider and Dong Kim to play against a new HU bot

In case I get my one time right here, I wish for the machine to run so horribly bad that we need a new definition of running bad. It will be called running Claudico.
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Old 04-20-2015, 05:00 PM   #22
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Re: WCGRider and Dong Kim to play against a new HU bot

hardly doubt a bot can beat best nlhe players just yet... anyone knows what is the sample size here btw?
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Old 04-20-2015, 05:10 PM   #23
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Re: WCGRider and Dong Kim to play against a new HU bot

How many hands do they need for a significant sample?

I hope they're not coinflipping on "Poker's Deep Blue Moment" articles being published everywhere & giving ammo to rigtards etc.
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Old 04-20-2015, 05:43 PM   #24
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Re: WCGRider and Dong Kim to play against a new HU bot

Is Brilliant27 in this thing?
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Old 04-20-2015, 05:50 PM   #25
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Re: WCGRider and Dong Kim to play against a new HU bot

Stakes? Link is broken for me.
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