Over/under how much this story and the dream machine part has cost Ben in getting-action EV so far? 500k?

I'll take the under.

I'll take the way way under. Probably < $100k. Nobody played him anyways and he doesn't seem to sit often because of it.

Lol 500K EV in less than a month. He is lucky if he makes a million in EV in online poker nowadays pre-dream machine-outing in a year.

I worded by post poorly, I actually meant "how much the story so far has cost him in EV *for all future*", not how much it has cost him yet. I'm very well aware that he seldomly gets action at least on stars even before this. Now he has to be just drawing dead

Except when Patrick Antonius stopped playing online because he found out that windows has a built in calculator, I don't think these "revelations" really hinder action.

Ben himself has said he works w Alix Martin and studies GTO pretty hard since a long time ago, what the hell would that mean other than crunching numbers using a decent software tool?

I doubt this will cost him much at all, if anything.

I remember when Antonius said it pissed him off anytime he heard someone say the games were too hard to beat...

The guy had a million dollar downswing and decided it was too hard to win anymore. That's a pretty stupid perception to have when he's up $17 million and poker is a game of variance.

Fixed that for you.

Why is Doug Polk always getting scammed? I am guessing that he is a genuinely good guy and people exploit him for being honest and upfront in his dealings. I hope women don't treat him like this.

Maybe he's a perpetual victim and has enough fan boys to take his side whenever he cries wolf.
LOL. Why the hell do you care about how women treat Doug Polk? He's rich and not bad looking- I'm sure he does fine. This is why I'm talking about fan boyism....

Fan boyism? Nah.Just curious is all. Women can be vultures when it comes to guys with a bit of cash.

And if I am going to be a "fanboy"why not be one of some as hunky as Doug? He is so dreamy and can do no wrong, and **** the HATERZZZ!!!

cuz he's still a NL25 player at heart

Fair enough. I can't get into the dude with his ego. He may be top tier but anyone who claims they're #1 (even if they are, which Dog is not) just loses my respect.

How the f is he not number one at HUNL when even the other elite players admit that he is #1

Source pls

Kanu7, carrycakes, danmerrrrr, ike, Sauce123, toocurious

They have all said this? Or has Doug said they have all said this? Honest question- I am not saying I know everything.

I'm pretty certain they all posted the above and sauce refuses to give WCG action.

jungleman is the best period

I love how NVG is obsessing over who is the "best" at a variant of poker that (aside from the last week) is completely dead at high stakes.

Not so much obsessing over who is best but the amount of fan boys obsessed with Doug Polk

Ben86 mega shortstacking a bunch of 25-50 plo right now. Leaving ~$700 stack on a few tables.

Sup with that?

When you sit with some money hanging off the table, that's a side straddle.

It's simply the most +EV spot to keep a short stack in PLO. And if it's one thing we've learned from this whole thing it is that Ben is good at pouncing at any +EV spot he can find

We should really give Ben86 some respect, don't you guys know he's big online? I think we should dedicate some new terms to him:

Getting Ben86ed: When someone sits you at a game which you coached them for first.
In a sentence: I just got Ben86ed by Eli Elezra.

Getting Full Ben86ed: When someone who scammed you and got free coaching from you sits you at the game you coached them at.
In a sentence: I just got Full Ben86ed by Alex Dreyfus.

The Ben86 Look: When you want to say in a subtle way that you hate the way somebody looks.
In a sentence: Did you see Negreanu's newest GF? She looks like Ben86.

The Ben86-Payment: When someone uses a transaction in which you profitted as an excuse to get out of paying you a different amount of money, that has nothing to do with with the first transaction.
In a sentence: Hey did Eric Lindgren already gave you that money from that bet? No, he keeps saying he already Ben86-paid me.