Given some of the past actions and reactions from Ben that have been reported ITT

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+ my addiction to watching Dateline and Forensic Files,

Takes this thread from a little funny to a little scary for me.

lolol, funny description

Unless you know doug personally though he doesn't come off as that. If anything he's a giant nerd who got good at social interaction through self improvement material, like many other people who grew up doing nothing but playing videogames.

combined with this...

we have a schoolshooting in the making

I'm not siding with anyone, and certainly not because of how their personality relates to mine.

I made it very clear that I think both parties have made mistakes. I'm just calling it like I see it, and while I can't evaluate exactly what is true about each of their claims, I can evaluate various other things.

-him sitting him at CAP which is clearly not a big deal since there was no forced action. Doug, if he sat you at 100bb HUNL, would you have reacted differently? Also at that point where you've already written off friendship, it shouldn't come as a surprise that he wanted to play. It would be noteworthy if he sat you on another account, or on 888 if you didn't know his sn, etc...

-making initial post / this thread / throwing Ben's relationship with Galfond/Don under the bus / outing his software was all very childish.

-giving coaching (Doug) and receiving coaching (Ben) before deal was 100% confirmed was a mistake. The crux of it comes down to whether or not Ben mentioned he had contractual obligations and needed his partner's approval. It's unclear at this point if this was mentioned. Regardless, I think there should have been some discussion about compensation for the coaching he did receive -- either a lump sum payment or standing pieces for x amount of time in Ben's NL action.

-Also as far as the bit about giving him a piece vs not giving him a piece vs Blom -- this is super lol. Everyone who sells/buys action makes it clear whether it's a standing piece or if it needs approval before any play starts. Like the piece is either clearly booked or clearly not booked. It sounds like since you couldn't reach him, and you weren't sure, it should be clearly not booked.

The cancel swap thing is ridic unless he thought Ben was going to straight up scam you.

You can increase playback speed on youtube to only waste 16-21 minutes of your life next time.

you should use this for the nvg short story contest. i loled.

Post #107 says it all. He had no plan other than to play WCG. Obv scummy, plus scary stories. Im now a bit scared of someone I know he reminds me of.

NVG Drama at its finest, what this needs now is a SrslySirius song about it.

to bad srlslysrius isnt in buisness anymore..



hello from the other side

mindmeld

Yeah I mean High Stakes ego wars being dragged onto public forums, horse stories, dream machines and random hating on ppl for the way they look, possibilities are endless.

lol I may be a tad biased, guys

that adele song doenst even need much..only a video edit..

To make it right , Ben should allow Doug to pick any PLO coach in the world and pay for Dougs coaching for X amount of hours.

Less disputing, more Polkernewsing please.

After whole #savetom thing, I see to clearly what's coming...

Doug whilst having the right side of this.. I think its important to appreciate that largely what you have experienced from Ben is a representation of many things he is dealing with internally. That is to say they have a lot less to do with you personally than it might appear on the surface. (comments like I hate people that look like you should make this pretty clear).

Yes the business side of things is regrettable but discussing some of the more private aspects of this relationship in such a toxic environment could and probably will have a very negative effect on Ben (and possibly you), in no way helping to alleviate his irrational/projected anger. Perhaps you dont owe him anything, but what looks like a hateful spiteful enemy to you, looks very much like a manifestation of many years of previous experiences to those on the outside. Some empathy/sensitivity towards those issues, business aside, perhaps.

Why wouldn't Doug play Ben, seems like a beta move from Doug regardless if Ben knows some of his moves lol, so what?!

That is the gayest thing ever I can't imagine why he did it

This

Usually pictures that involve a guy riding a wiener are pretty gay

make NVG great again

cancelling the plo coaching was obviously a clear scam, i mean, if the other guy doesnt give permission to share that dream machine, an elite plo player can give elite coaching regardless.

Very nice 'shop, ShowMeUrAce.

Some people just think that way. I was playing a guy straight pool for a thousand a game, spotting him, and beating him. He said he'd play me two thousand a game even. I told my partner I wasn't going to play him because, before we started, he walked around the room and found the squeakiest chair he could, brought it by our table, and sat there rocking every time I was shooting. My friend gave me the time out signal we used when we needed to discuss something. We both went into the bathroom. He grabbed me by the front of the shirt, threw me up against the wall, and said, "Do you mind if I make some ***king money?" I saw the wisdom of his reasoning, we went back outside, and I played.