Is this really so hard to understand ? Doug just uses the wrong word imo, since it's def not unethical. It just shows an absolute lack of character on Ben's part.

First you get free coaching from the best nl hu player there is
In return you screw him
Then you get into a fight with him because for some weird reason dougs appearance and behaviour upsets you, feeling too overwhelmed to deal with the repurcussions afterwards so you decide just not to talk to doug anymore.

After all these things happening common sense would be to leave each other alone and def not work on your capgame for a good bunch to later try to prey on the guy who cut your work time in half with his free coaching. Again nothing really unethical..... just a complete lack of character all around imo and i can def see why this upsets doug.

WCG and Ben, please do yourselves a favor and resolve this in private. Or don't. But you're starting to talk about some personal stuff that is none of anybody else's business. After all, you end your video with "this is between me and Ben".
NVG is just drooling over the embarassing drama, please stop it while you still can.

Comes to a News, Views & GOSSIP sub forum to tell people to stop gossiping...

Pretend it's sng lobby, or forced blinds. Now it got really icky and shady because not only did he get to pick your brain in depth over how you think in nl , he also knows what your weaknesses in cap are without paying for it by either coaching fees or playing since you promised coaching in then that you shorted him for. Now you give one cap buyin(30k) to a 1k hu hyper guy to work with you and supply stuff to work on . Instant profit if wcg's ego can't handle it when you sit.

Have too guys heard about other pupils becoming the master and then targeted their mentor ? I sure haven't

+1
Real-world analysis.

I'd be surprised if he didn't have an actual legal agreement with his partner, making it such that his hands actually were tied (Ie, an NDA)

This is why NVG exists.

Wait,

That's the worst thing that has ever happened to you Doug?

What kind of charmed life have you had?

Doug looks like a bully confirmed

WCG,

Did Ben86 tell you he would have to get approval to coach before you entered into agreeemnet? After Ben86 made you aware that he couldn't coach you and you already coached him did you ask to be compensated another way? When you made the coaching agreement did you make the caveat he can't play you?

wins the thread

no the horsebackriding story does...

not even close

The horse riding story really topples all!

Ben's reaction to that funny gay video of him was terrible.

Maybe if we get lucky this will end with a Doug vs Ben mma fight!!

MMA match anyone? ;-)

I hope we get to see verification pictures of the horsebackriding story guy, as far as i could make of it he only deleted the video not the pictures where he appearantly didnt ride the horse like erick lindgren sits on piedestals with a umbrella. SHOW US THE PICTURES OF HIM RIDING THAT HORSE

This is an informed, logical, and rational post on the situation. Clearly, it has no place in NVG.

Ben should initiate a challenge, may be the best chance he ever gets to get back at bullies. Either that or HU for rolls.

As much as I feel sorry for Doug, I feel sorry for Ben too.
The guy has mental issues and needs to do some serious work on his innerself, if he doesn't see a therapist already I would highly suggest it to him.

Ben and Doug, resolve this in private please. Posting a video with his full name on youtube, where you out your frustation is just making him look bad. This is a personal issue related to poker between both of you. Doug publicly outing his thoughts about him shouldn't be his concern, it's a very low vibration way of dealing with the problem.

I am missing the upswingpoker links in the OP

This. Don't ever get divorced. What happened with Ben will seem like a trip to Disneyland compared to that

Be careful doug (pic is from ben86's own twitter)

Exactly.

Not a good look for ben.