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Originally Posted by LeapFrog
I assume that you base your 'honest opinions' on fact, not phases of the moon, so lets hear how I helped throw WA players under the bus. If I had said the same thing about you, you would certainly demand a detailed explanation.
You've done it by repeatedly attacking posters who seek to stand up for poker rights. You continually jump on those who stand up for our rights and go after them because they won't oppose the very bills we got introduced into Congress in the first place.
I get that you don't support our efforts, but it's the active opposition that I'm calling out here.
Here's the most offensive one to me:
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Originally Posted by LeapFrog
good legislation could be a repeal of UIGEA or whatever. It doesn't have to force gaming on the states. If you want to say it would never pass, that is fine.
It's fine, huh? As these are the best bills that can even be introduced, you are essentially telling us to abandon Congress (as we cannot even get a repeal of UIGEA introduced, much less passed) and just to hope for the best. You then imply that we're sellouts for not demanding the impossible.
Also, it's almost like you don't even recognize that there's a political process. You don't seem to understand that we need to build our support in Congress by writing, calling, and lobbying.
Here's another:
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Originally Posted by LeapFrog
Time for a Gaboonvipereske Armageddon post:
Online poker (at least as we know it) has a shelf life. Exactly what that is, who knows. 'Cultural shifts' (people become less interested in playing poker), knowledge creep, the state of the economy, and of course bots are each factors that could unbalance the games. By unbalance, I mean make the games unprofitable or close enough to it that we would see the number of professional online players shrink to almost nothing.
I would be stunned if botting/computer assistance (alone) doesn't render the games worthless within 15 years, probably more like 10. So, I'm not exactly sure what your long term plan is here. 5-7 years of the status quo sounds like bliss to me, really.
You'll excuse me if I don't think we should just play defense for seven years and lose a few states on the way. We can do better.
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Originally Posted by LeapFrog
Look, this is very simple. I believe that all Americans should have the right to play poker online, at a decent room. I will not support legislation which further endangers that right or organization that advocates for it.
The problem isn't that you won't support it. The problem is that you come here and actively discourage people from pushing for such legislation. As we're clear underdogs with the current federal legislation, how would your idea accomplish anything? Oh yeah....you're fine without passing anything and clinging to the status quo until it crumbles.
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Originally Posted by LeapFrog
yeah I was probably on 2+2 doing my part to inform players about what awaits them if their state opts out, giving them the straight dope as it were as opposed to the PPA 'unlicensed sites will grow!' whitewash.
Yep. Good job talking some posters out of supporting a plan that brings stability and growth to the U.S. poker market.
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Originally Posted by LeapFrog
well sorry, I'm unwilling to throw millions of poker players under the bus with state opt outs. Seems ironic you are, but we live in strange times.
I would rather fight for legislation unlikely to pass, then sell out millions of poker players who just want to be able to enjoy a reasonable (quality that is) game from their homes.
It seems you're trying to throw all of us under the bus of false hopes just so you can get your dream of a five year status quo.
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