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06-27-2014 , 01:50 PM
The Monster Stack has, undoubtedly, been a monster success.
However, I can't help but feel that if it becomes a regular event it will end up reducing the numbers for the Main Event.

This year I can't see it being a problem as those who are going to play the Main Event had already decided to long ago but it may well be different going forward.

What makes so many people spend $10,000 to play the Main Event?
1. The chance to play with the pros they have seen on TV in the past
2. The chance to win life changing money
3. The chance to play a huge tournament with a 300+ BB starting stack.

The Millionaire Maker has satisfied 1 and 2 and is only $1500 to play.
The Monster Stack has satisfied 1, 2 and 3 and is also only $1500.

A lot of people save up all year, or even longer, to play the Main Event, they join local weekly games that send a player to the Main Event, or they just stump up the money and go for it.

$1500 may seem like a far more attractive alternative. Those local weekly games could send 6 players instead of 1. Saving isn't so easy these days and a $1500 event is far easier to save for. $1500 for an event that you are likely to make at least day 2 could make the 'go for it' casual players prefer it to the Main Event.

To reduce the effect on the Main Event, maybe the Monster Stack should replace the Millionaire Maker and take its place at the beginning of the summer.

Just my view/opinion though...
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06-27-2014 , 02:08 PM
i could see 500-1000 less players in the main event because of the monster stack..
starting next year
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06-27-2014 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
The Monster Stack has, undoubtedly, been a monster success.
However, I can't help but feel that if it becomes a regular event it will end up reducing the numbers for the Main Event.

This year I can't see it being a problem as those who are going to play the Main Event had already decided to long ago but it may well be different going forward.

What makes so many people spend $10,000 to play the Main Event?
1. The chance to play with the pros they have seen on TV in the past
2. The chance to win life changing money
3. The chance to play a huge tournament with a 300+ BB starting stack.

The Millionaire Maker has satisfied 1 and 2 and is only $1500 to play.
The Monster Stack has satisfied 1, 2 and 3 and is also only $1500.

A lot of people save up all year, or even longer, to play the Main Event, they join local weekly games that send a player to the Main Event, or they just stump up the money and go for it.

$1500 may seem like a far more attractive alternative. Those local weekly games could send 6 players instead of 1. Saving isn't so easy these days and a $1500 event is far easier to save for. $1500 for an event that you are likely to make at least day 2 could make the 'go for it' casual players prefer it to the Main Event.

To reduce the effect on the Main Event, maybe the Monster Stack should replace the Millionaire Maker and take its place at the beginning of the summer.

Just my view/opinion though...
I agree. Assuming they fix all the issues and problems next year that occurred this year, I'd much rather play the $1500. Other than a bigger payout, why risk the $10,000 when for $1500 you can get close to the same thing?
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06-27-2014 , 02:21 PM
main event will still be the main event, people want to play the main event and i don't see what having another donkament on the schedule will change anything just because someone thinks it a good idea to start it with an excessive number of big blinds
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06-27-2014 , 02:23 PM
You people have lost your minds but carry on
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06-27-2014 , 02:23 PM
Adjusted for inflation, $10,000 from the first WSOP Main is $50K-$60K today.
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06-27-2014 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by WM2
Adjusted for inflation, $10,000 from the first WSOP Main is $50K-$60K today.
So?
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06-27-2014 , 02:45 PM
op makes a good point. However, the monster stack doesn't really carry the same prestige or aura as the main event.
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06-27-2014 , 02:55 PM
Now thats what we call a View.

Over and out. Back to drinking beer.
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06-27-2014 , 02:57 PM
The monster stack & the millionaire maker are like a poor man's main event.

I think they both have their place and can coexist with the main event. The main event will always be the main event, and I doubt top prizes will come anywhere close compared to the milly maker and monster stack, the main event will always blow them away on the top end of the payouts.

The main event will still be the tournament everyone will hope to win sometime in their lifetime, and whomever wins it will be 100x more famous than whoever wins the milly maker and monster stack since they're not on TV.
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06-27-2014 , 03:16 PM
I think many will just play both... What's the difference in 11500 and 10,000.
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06-27-2014 , 03:33 PM
1500

More relevantly. the difference between 10,000 and 1500 is 8500
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06-27-2014 , 03:36 PM
Who cares?
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06-27-2014 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ChipKatcher
I think many will just play both... What's the difference in 11500 and 10,000.
this. /thread
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06-27-2014 , 03:50 PM
The Monster Stack is the poor mans Main Event. People want to play for a bracelet and not worry that one poorly played hand ends their tournament. Some people save for years to play the Main Event. Now, some people will be satisfied only playing the Monster Stack. The question is, is playing the Monster Stack enough to quench the thirst of those that dream of playing in the Main Event? I say yes. The Main Event won't die, but people won't be doing absolutely anything they can to get into it. I won't. I played my first WSOP event this year, the Seniors event. I regret I chose that over the Monster specifically because I couldn't overcome a failed triple barrel bluff. In the Monster Stack, I would have had plenty of chips to weather that storm. The Monster stack is now now my new dream tournament. And guess what, I can easily save to play in it if it comes back next year. And seeing how the WSOP take in that bad boy was for over 1.1million, it's coming back baby!!
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06-27-2014 , 03:55 PM
I think an event like this will attract new players to the wsop who would never consider playing the main event.

I for example am a recreational player and would never consider risking $10k on any tournament but would consider making the trip to Vegas for a huge $1500 tournament like the monster stack.

IMO The main event will continue to be huge and successful for many years with or without additional events like the monster stack or millionaire maker.
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06-27-2014 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ChipKatcher
I think many will just play both... What's the difference in 11500 and 10,000.
op is saying there is a difference in 10000 and 1500. you are doing it wrong
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06-27-2014 , 04:11 PM
What is the payouts for monster stack?.
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06-27-2014 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
The Monster Stack has, undoubtedly, been a monster success.
However, I can't help but feel that if it becomes a regular event it will end up reducing the numbers for the Main Event.

This year I can't see it being a problem as those who are going to play the Main Event had already decided to long ago but it may well be different going forward.

What makes so many people spend $10,000 to play the Main Event?
1. The chance to play with the pros they have seen on TV in the past
2. The chance to win life changing money
3. The chance to play a huge tournament with a 300+ BB starting stack.

The Millionaire Maker has satisfied 1 and 2 and is only $1500 to play.
The Monster Stack has satisfied 1, 2 and 3 and is also only $1500.

A lot of people save up all year, or even longer, to play the Main Event, they join local weekly games that send a player to the Main Event, or they just stump up the money and go for it.

$1500 may seem like a far more attractive alternative. Those local weekly games could send 6 players instead of 1. Saving isn't so easy these days and a $1500 event is far easier to save for. $1500 for an event that you are likely to make at least day 2 could make the 'go for it' casual players prefer it to the Main Event.

To reduce the effect on the Main Event, maybe the Monster Stack should replace the Millionaire Maker and take its place at the beginning of the summer.

Just my view/opinion though...
You missed:
4. Potential "fame" and playing on TV (espn)
- people want to document the chance to play poker at the "highest level" and shot of showing up on TV and the "fame" that can come with it. Thats why they are willing to put down 10k
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06-27-2014 , 04:28 PM
The monster stack generated $1,179,300 in rake, I can't see it going anywhere.
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06-27-2014 , 04:35 PM
A $1500 donkament buyin isn't exactly something a poor man has the luxury to participate in. It's more like an everyday man's version of the ME. Plopping down $10k for a single loldonkament is pretty ridiculous and probably a net negative for the entire poker economy when global economic conditions are this miserable.
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06-27-2014 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by augie_
Who cares?
Maybe not "who cares" but "so what"?

So what if the Monster Stack becomes the tournament everyone looks forward to each year?
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06-27-2014 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by maxinnrelaxin
You missed:
4. Potential "fame" and playing on TV (espn)
- people want to document the chance to play poker at the "highest level" and shot of showing up on TV and the "fame" that can come with it. Thats why they are willing to put down 10k
What if they televise the Mega Stack?

It would be cool to play on tv against the big players for a bracelet and a ton of cash. Paying a $1500 entry fee for the experience is way more feasible than $10k. I have no desire to become ME champ or a "poker ambassador" so I don't need to play the ME. The fame and notoriety for being ME champion is not something I would like. I enjoy my privacy. A Mega Stack champ would have a lot easier time to slink back into obscurity. I'm sure there are many like me in this regard.
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06-27-2014 , 04:59 PM
12 million > 1.7 million....... This is why the Main Event will always remain the one tournament every year that everyone wants to play.
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06-27-2014 , 05:58 PM
Monster stack most amazing value it seems. I'm not happy I missed it this year.
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