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Originally Posted by madlex
While they are at it, maybe they should also explain why it's highly -EV for them to play poker in the first place?
I'd definitely be willing to travel to tour stops if a significant number of pros would boycott it.
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Originally Posted by borg23
Exactly.
"So games will be easier and more fun and you're mad about 20 bucks? I'm gonna play."
Madlex it is true, you are correct, yet, i have known many who realized the -EV and have quit the game. And I also have witnessed many many others who will never realize this fact, and they keep showing up and donating.
But, your travel stops idea is off, I think. Suppose 2%-5% of the field was missing due to some pro/semi-pro drop-out, it's not gonna give you any better chance at a cash. The "-EV guys" can knock you out and/or you have still overpaid to play for a smaller prize(due to inflated rakes on entry fees) even if you survive to win. Just some quick math at a nearby WSOPC $300+65(17.8%). At 10% rake 1st place winner would have gotten $60,068 but at 17.8% he actually got about $4,400 less. $4,400 is enough to enter what? about 12 more $365 tournaments? And let's say this guy is what I refer to as semi-pro(the ones who have the most to lose, right? because they are the ones usually cashing, right) Multiply his reduced profit throughout his career.
NOW Borg23: How is this just $20???
Multiply all of these rakes and fees throughout a year and trying to come out ahead is a huger challenge than the huge challenge that it already is.
GREED point: The real WSOP took 10% on 1k and 1.5k tournaments, so they admit that $100 per player is a good profit to run the $1,000 event and even better $150 to run the $1,500 event. Why do they need $250 per player to run the $2,500 event? They don't. They just like get away with it. And they did.
Or how 'bout the Main Event at $600 per player, $6,000 per starting table to pay a dealer and a floor man? Some of the pro's (not just "semi's", but some of the "big boyz") are actually questioning why they charge any rake for the Main, as it is profitable even without any rake fees, it is huge on it's own, and supports all the other WSOP non-sense all over the country all year long!!!