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dunkindonot1 · 01-06-2012, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Husker

I just wish Puggy Neutron would start offering coaching

LOL

GeleHaas · 01-06-2012, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MinusEV

While I don't know anything about SplitSuit, I am (unfortunately?) very familiar with 50NL. And even for someone "crushing it", 100K should never, ever be mentioned in the same sentence as 50NL.

Maybe, but just maybe, if you play 60+ hours a week 24 tabling with a good rakeback deal?

nsoshnikov · 01-06-2012, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chessterfish

If a losing player made a coaching thread and charged money for it, I'm pretty sure that would be considered bad/unethical, even if he only charged players that were worse than him/her. Its effectively the same for a mediocre coach that over charges imo.

Your thread doesn't include a graph/results in the op, instead the first thing people look at are the green mod status, the number of posts and the misleading words in the title "crushing" and "expert".

also wtf at not having your results in the op, surely this should be mandatory for every coaching thread on here

+1

Malefiicus · 01-06-2012, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GeleHaas

Maybe, but just maybe, if you play 60+ hours a week 24 tabling with a good rakeback deal?

Possible and happening are two different things. It's possible to make 100k a year at 50NL. It's not likely, and so far nobody has ever done it. Because if you're good, you move up. If you don't move up, it's not because you're trying to make 100k a year.

daveh07 · 01-06-2012, 10:03 PM

Just purchased the Ultimate Package on the website for 1337. Kind of weird that the pricing sounds like looks like L33T. like in the CS days but it seems pretty basic.

brutti · 01-06-2012, 10:13 PM

SplitSuit hasn't claimed anything, however I think its a statement in it self to even consider doing coaching or writing books. You seem to suck at poker just as myself and u figured its money in coaching. You're just as scummy as the ratholers.

(._X)0---(^_^) · 01-06-2012, 10:47 PM

so here we have *Split* providing proof that all the coach scams are based on sucking off to micro players in uNL forum and having skills to write ballpoint paragraphs on a forum where most people's text look like it came out of a bull's ass.

beating 100nl and under 2years ago for a weakish winrate means that in today's game he would struggle to beat the rake at the lowest levels of the micro. How can he teach even total noobs more than "this hand is good preflop".

There's a reason why the average micro guy has 5k post, all the advices given there are horrible. Those that do get out of this start blogs and then they only post HH's with no strat in uNL to get students once they start coaching but then most of them were just on heaters and are eventually going to lose it all and pay it back with coaching money.

***Split*** · 01-07-2012, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by navs

Split,

When you market yourself as the "best full ring coach", write a book and develop a 100K system for crushing the micros; your results should come into question.

You posted your results in your coaching thread but what you didn't explain to prospective students was that the majority of the hands were pre 2008 and you have actually been a losing player for the last couple years. (I would love to see results over the last 18 months pre-black friday).

Your 100k system has zero evidence of working; let alone winning.

You can charge whatever you want for coaching to but you should openly state you don't play and haven't been a winner for awhile. When you don't thats unethical and sketchy at best; regardless of your status in the community.

I have been open about my volume and WR forever. Here are my stats from early on (the winrate is in BB/100, NOT bb/100):

Here is pre-Back Friday. Again, minimal volume, which I have been honest about (this is in bb/100):

And this is my 50NL graph:

I'm pretty sure this will be my last post in this thread. I've said my piece and you can take it however you want. The only thing I can do is be lucid about everything, which is and has always been my motivation.

(with regards to the bold, maybe try and actually look at the date range in the first image before you make your snide "pre 2008" comment)

SmokeyJ · 01-07-2012, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cocktails

See some mails of your friend. You should have seen the video's.

[insane emails]

Jesus christ l-o-l.

vinivici9586 · 01-07-2012, 12:23 AM

Split deserves credit for being honest in his coaching thread, and putting a lot of effort into modding

That being said...he's writing a 100k micro system for a stake he's up 5k at. Not cool in my book (metaphorical book)

1aday · 01-07-2012, 12:30 AM

SplitSuit, you hadn't made 100k by playing poker, so why did you call your system the 100k coaching system? This is basically false advertising.

Did you make over 100k from sales of your '100k product'?

:::grimReaper::: · 01-07-2012, 01:11 AM

why is one pic in BB/100 and other in bb/100? Very, very, misleading imo

navs · 01-07-2012, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by *Split*

I have been open about my volume and WR forever. Here are my stats from early on (the winrate is in BB/100, NOT bb/100):

Here is pre-Back Friday. Again, minimal volume, which I have been honest about (this is in bb/100):

And this is my 50NL graph:

I'm pretty sure this will be my last post in this thread. I've said my piece and you can take it however you want. The only thing I can do is be lucid about everything, which is and has always been my motivation.

(with regards to the bold, maybe try and actually look at the date range in the first image before you make your snide "pre 2008" comment)

Thanks, you def deserve credit for your openness. However, I disagree with the way you are marketing your products.

RangeyMcTriplmerge · 01-07-2012, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by *Split*

And this is my 50NL graph:

Sorry, couldn't help myself lol

spino1i · 01-07-2012, 01:59 AM

Here's some advice guys:

The players that are actually really really good for the most part arent very eager to go around sharing their knowledge. Why would they do that, and mitigate their advantages? Why would someone who is crushing 2000 NL go and tell anyone and everyone exactly how to beat the game?

The only people you see going around spamming about the amazing secrets of poker that they have to tell you about, suck. A good player is not apt to reveal his secrets.