too much money to be made in manilla. WSOP is peanut stakes comparatively I imagine.

I imagine you would be right that it's more profitable to play against amateurs than these young gun computer nerds that are dominating nowadays. But are you certain that's where he is playing. I don't have any reason to doubt you just haven't heard anything about him for awhile now.

There's tons of money to be made elsewhere, I get it. But at some point your whole brand revolves around making appearances and playing events like WSOP. He should definitely start playing some events this summer unless he truly does not gaf about his image and brand.

Your guess is as good as mine. I just looked at his Hendon and he hasn't cashed a tourney since January 2016.

I don't know how much his "brand" is hurt by not playing tournaments. Anyone who plays poker knows Phil Ivey and he's still talked about during all of these broadcasts despite his absence. Also, he's still referred to as the best player in the world during these broadcasts. So that makes me think his brand isn't suffering, but it just sucks not seeing him participate in any of these events. I have a feeling he'll make an appearance for the $50k players championship, but we will have to wait and see.

Whether or not he's the best all around poker player in the world is really up for debate, but I don't think that matters. He's probably one of the most interesting players in the industry, which is why his popularity is so high. He has never been a "look at me" self promoter, which adds to his allure in my opinion.

Simply not playing is also better than playing and losing. It adds something to his brand maybe that he doesn't even need to play these tournaments while most do.

why would ivey care about tournaments with 5-25k ev that will take multiple days of his time

i mean, sure it's worth for him sometimes

but it's not like a big deal for him

and he must have better spots quite often

Apparently because of his "brand".

Welcome to 2017, where youtube views and social media likes are worth more than winning money.

IVEY was great against other humans, not so much against bots, and advanced artificial assistance.

he also hasn't tweeted since last year. Perhaps it's more +EV for him right now to focus on his legal case.

He was particularly "skilled" on the site he was major part owner.

Lol ^^^^ humorously terrible post

Not really, he beat the players at the site he part owned, now he has to play on other sites he does not own, he no longer beats them.

Same opponents, opposite results. Hmm.

why do you specify 60+ bb? even 60 bb is a ****ing joke but you said it like playing short stacking garbage fake poker is a source of pride

Wut? I was just saying from which depth onwards I thought Doug might have a non-0 chance of being the best at. Read the post.

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I agree.....its same with Tiger Woods, he beat players by double digit score for years and now he cant beat those same players and can't even walk in a str8 line.......Same opponents, oposite results, Hmmmm. Must have been cheating.

Has Ivey had multiple surgeries on his brain in that time like Woods has had for his array of physical ailments?

Ivey currently playing 2k/4k in Bobby's Room
https://www.facebook.com/gus.hansen/...95355100533193

obviously not. Granted this post was made in 2k14 so it was a bit different but now there are so many better players out there at 6max, HU, ring, mtts, PLO, etc. etc. etc. Ivey is probably still very very good and can probably compete at midstakes but idk about online highstakes and such. would he do well at a table with limitless, linus, otb, etc. ? prob not imo

The point is that there are many other real reasons that he was winning and is not than just oh he must have been cheating. You pointed out the issues tiger has had. Do you not think there are any of these for Ivey? (ie. reasons other than oh he must be cheating). IF there is any evidence of this (cheating) whatsoever apart from the point you keep repeating then lets hear it.

At one time he was the all time winning live tourney player, all time winning online as well as the most feared cash game player live at all of the games. Was all of this because he owned full tilt poker? Or was it perhaps because times have changed/players are better/he doesnt take it as seriously/doesnt study/play/care as much? Was Durrr cheating as well? Patrik? By god Dani Stern? Was everyone who was a crusher and isn't any more cheating?

Glad you posted this. Gus is posting mad Bobby's Room pictures. Jungleman recent appearance today.

Maybe, part of Woods edge was that he could hit the ball further than opponents. I always wondered if he took steroids to help him gain an unfair edge.

Now he cant outhit the opponents he has lost his edge.

At 250 bb he would more than hold his own

The real question you should be asking is how many people were hitting ball over 300 yard average in 1997 when Woods turned pro? And how many are today? Ill answer such that you don't continue your intellectual conspiracy theory. In 1997 there was 1 person (not tiger. Tiger first did this first in 2004). In 2017 on the tour there were 42 players who did this. 42. FORTY TWO. Tiger had had many issues and the level of competition has significantly improved due to many variables. Ivey has also run into a 2017 filled with exceptional players playing perfect poker as a result of many factors. That in addition to his lack of motivation to get better and be the best (as well as other crap he is obviously dealing with legally) is the reason he is not the best. The oh he must have been cheating argument is lazy, oh so lazy.

What's your evidence for this?

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