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Old 07-31-2010, 04:12 PM   #46
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Re: View: Online Poker's Marketing Strategies - Bring in more fishes?

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Giving poker a lottery like catch is exactly what we're trying not to do.

We want to separate poker from other games like roulette and the lottery.

Poker is a skill game and we want it to be defined to be a skill game (like chess)

Sure it will bring in noobz but it would also bring in noobz who want to play a skill game vs. noobz who want to play a lottery.
I have no idea who "we" are here but I have to comment on this opinion or statement, what ever it is.

When playing a game casually, which is what the majority of players in any game do, you think they want to play the best and get beat all the time because the best player should win?

Have you ever been good at, say, a 3D shooter, FIFA , Madden NHL or what those videogames are called? Ever experienced a lot of people getting completely crushed in those games and thought it was fun?
That's somewhat the line that online poker is going to. He goes online, wants to play hands, and somehow never gets the best hand and get valuetowned to death again and again. Very few will find this enjoyable

People want a shot to win, be it luck or skill - that's why lotteries are popular even everyone knows they expect to lose in it.

Poker is the same way. It isn't like chess. Chess doesn't attract all kind of people, if someone plays chess against another that knows what they're doing and easily beats them - it'll be very demotivating for most.
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Old 07-31-2010, 05:22 PM   #47
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Re: View: Online Poker's Marketing Strategies - Bring in more fishes?

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umh what.. ofcourse poker should be marketed as a game where anybody can beat anybody. If you market it as a intellectual skillgame fish won't come. OP is absolutely right.
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Old 07-31-2010, 06:33 PM   #48
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Re: View: Online Poker's Marketing Strategies - Bring in more fishes?

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The fun thing about poker is that the fish think it's luck when they lose, and skill when they win.
The funny thing about poker is everyone thinks its skill when they win and bad luck when they lose.

Just watch the 50k championship wsop, all of them at the FT table think they are good and have skill but what will win, luck obviously.

If Dwan runs good, its skill.

If DN runs good, he's a donkey and it was all luck.
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Old 07-31-2010, 08:46 PM   #49
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Re: View: Online Poker's Marketing Strategies - Bring in more fishes?

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The funny thing about poker is everyone thinks its skill when they win and bad luck when they lose.

Just watch the 50k championship wsop, all of them at the FT table think they are good and have skill but what will win, luck obviously.

If Dwan runs good, its skill.

If DN runs good, he's a donkey and it was all luck.
Ermm... confidence/ego/arrogance is one of the most important attributes to have as a poker player.
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Old 07-31-2010, 10:31 PM   #50
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Re: View: Online Poker's Marketing Strategies - Bring in more fishes?

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Giving poker a lottery like catch is exactly what we're trying not to do.

We want to separate poker from other games like roulette and the lottery.

Poker is a skill game and we want it to be defined to be a skill game (like chess)

Sure it will bring in noobz but it would also bring in noobz who want to play a skill game vs. noobz who want to play a lottery.

If you're in to being broke, sure. I'm pretty sure the general population wants a bunch of noobs to play and lose all their money.
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