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mistergrinch · 07-29-2010, 01:54 PM

This thread is for all you nerds who mechanically mass table low stakes cash games and think you're poker players. Sure, you might grind out a meager income this way, but you'll never become elite players. To really advance, you need to play fewer tables and work on reads and making creative plays instead of playing like robots. And to make the games enjoyable you need to learn to chat so recreational players know they're dealing with human beings and want to come back. All you're doing is killing the games that you depend on; bots will soon be able to do what you do and they won't require sleep, food or porn. For the long term health of online poker, mass tabling should be banned and some kind of Turing test should be implemented at the tables.

Squibz · 07-29-2010, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mistergrinch

This thread is for all you nerds who mechanically mass table low stakes cash games and think you're poker players. Sure, you might grind out a meager income this way, but you'll never become elite players. To really advance, you need to play fewer tables and work on reads and making creative plays instead of playing like robots. And to make the games enjoyable you need to learn to chat so recreational players know they're dealing with human beings and want to come back. All you're doing is killing the games that you depend on; bots will soon be able to do what you do and they won't require sleep, food or porn. For the long term health of online poker, mass tabling should be banned and some kind of Turing test should be implemented at the tables.

I think you could argue that having seen many situations and being familiar with the "default" decision would enable you to make deviations that would thus be Real Poker (TM).

**terp** · 07-29-2010, 01:59 PM

it's definitely poker, though you raise some good points that aren't exactly revolutionary

Fritzy · 07-29-2010, 02:00 PM

http://www.pokertableratings.com/sta...earch/nanonoko

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HopelessHousewife · 07-29-2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritzy

http://www.pokertableratings.com/sta...earch/nanonoko

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1 exception. it def proves something.

baphomet · 07-29-2010, 02:02 PM

There's no need to quote OP when you're first to respond.

Now, some people don't strive to be an elite player or moving up limits to prove how good they are. Nor do they care about chatting w/ the casual player who they're making their money from. What they do care about is making a decent income and maximizing their hourly rate by playing as many hands per hour as possible.

Not everyone wants to be the best.

Squibz · 07-29-2010, 02:07 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKofewfeSoY
I wanna be the very best

Like no one ever was

To win them is my real test

To train them is my cause

I will travel across the land

Searching far and wide

Teach poker master to understand

The power that's inside

poker master!

Gotta win 'em all!--

It's you and me

I know it's my destiny

poker master!

Ooooh, you're my best friend

In a world we must defend

poker master!

Gotta win 'em all!--

Our hearts so true

Our courage will pull us through

You teach me and I'll teach you

poker master!

Gotta win 'em all!

Gotta win 'em all!

Yeeaa.

Every challenge along the way

With courage I can face

I will battle everyday

To claim my rightful place

Come with me the time is right

There's no better team

Arm in arm we'll win the fight

It's always been our dream

poker master!

Gotta win 'em all!--

It's you and me

I know it's my destiny

poker master!

Ooooh, you're my best friend

In a world we must defend

poker master!

Gotta win 'em all!--

Our hearts so true

Our courage will pull us through

You teach me and I'll teach you

poker master!

Gotta win 'em all!

Gotta win 'em all!

Gotta win 'em all!

Gotta win 'em all!

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Yeeeaa!

Mordan · 07-29-2010, 02:07 PM

ain't isn't a word either.........just sayin

sweeng8 · 07-29-2010, 02:08 PM

"but you'll never become elite players"

will you ever become an elite poker player? Probably not.

"you might grind out a meager income this way"

I used to full ring. Made more than you ever will (probably). Was never aiming to be "elite" but made a very healthy profit I was happy with.

"And to make the games enjoyable you need to learn to chat so recreational players know they're dealing with human beings "

No, that just makes you sound a bit retarded. Go play bingo if you want a nice chat.

"All you're doing is killing the games that you depend on"

Surely you are only effecting full ring games. If you want to play 6 max or HU then full ring has no impact

"For the long term health of online poker, mass tabling should be banned "

Nah it shouldnt

Squibz · 07-29-2010, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mordan

ain't isn't a word either.........just sayin

It's a commonly accepted colloquialism, actually. Just like "sayin" isn't a word.

MicroLimitsLegend · 07-29-2010, 02:11 PM

no thanks

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korova · 07-29-2010, 02:20 PM

do you think your cool/ not a nerd because you 4 table or w/e?

where do you draw the line at mass tabling, is 9/12 tabling okay?

there are a decent amount of people who can play many tables playing pretty laggy, just because you cannot does not mean others cannot.

this does not really matter because people are going to do whatever it takes to make the most profit (within reason), and hating or disliking them for it is really naive.

RobBizzle · 07-29-2010, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mordan

ain't isn't a word either.........just sayin

ICWUDT

Crane · 07-29-2010, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistergrinch

This thread is for all you nerds who mechanically mass table low stakes cash games and think you're poker players. Sure, you might grind out a meager income this way, but you'll never become elite players. To really advance, you need to play fewer tables and work on reads and making creative plays instead of playing like robots. And to make the games enjoyable you need to learn to chat so recreational players know they're dealing with human beings and want to come back. All you're doing is killing the games that you depend on; bots will soon be able to do what you do and they won't require sleep, food or porn. For the long term health of online poker, mass tabling should be banned and some kind of Turing test should be implemented at the tables.

agreed. 4 tables max just like in the party poker days. **** the 24-tablers. all they do is **** up the games.

Fantasy89 · 07-29-2010, 02:27 PM

I agree fwiw that mass tabling is very bad for the game in the long run, with a few exceptions, but you word it so poorly that it just sounds like a half drunk insult thread instead of a debate.