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03-13-2012 , 11:16 PM
A floorman calling the clock on a player during break is ****ing ridiculous
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03-13-2012 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by pineapple888
Wow, a whole bunch of whiners ITT...

The only thing that remotely concerns me as a (former) tournament player is that they skipped levels (and I haven't seen any confirmation of that). Everything else seems either completely justifiable or LOL minor, even if somebody in particular doesn't like it.

I mean... they colored up when they were scheduled to, instead of doing it for YOUR convenience... oh yeah, and they didn't shut off a speaker when you wanted them to... and now you're NEVER going to play there again? Whatever. If you don't want to play there, then don't play there. More equity for everyone else.

As for calling the clock, the TD can do it at any time regardless of what anyone else says or doesn't say, and I wish more of them would, so we didn't have ridiculous 20-minute tanks.

I feel like the skipping of the levels has the least merit for a complaint since it was known before hand what the structure was (I'm assuming). I understand trying to lobby to have different structures before the tournament starts, but I don't understand why people play anyways and then complain. They would be more apt to changing it if people stopped playing because of it.

As far as calling the clock on a break. It seems pointless unless maybe the other guy in the hand does it because he is being robbed of a break. For the TD to do it when nothing else would be going on otherwise seems absurd


edit: As far as changing the payouts: Just say NO. The Venetian tries to do this everytime they get to 10 handed (when it pays nine or eight) to speed things up and its annoying the way they word it making you object pretty quickly, but it isn't THAT big of a deal. I once objected two off the money as the shortstack because the chip leader sitting next to me didn't have the balls to speak up (probably not an expert move but it worked out).

Last edited by cpitt398; 03-13-2012 at 11:28 PM.
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03-13-2012 , 11:34 PM
i love that 150-199 players pays 19 spots and 200-249 pays 23 spots, there is no number of entrants that will pay exactly 9 18 or 27 players
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03-13-2012 , 11:38 PM
FYI I spoke with the head Td today at wynn. He volunteered without me bringing it up, that they may add the 2500-5000 in if there are no objections from the remaining players
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03-14-2012 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Samdk77
No! because small dudes get drunk faster due to less body mass, and drinking 10 shots in 10mins is alot for a small guy.
Wow that is really crazy amount of liquor within such a short span of time.
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03-14-2012 , 12:09 AM
John's a huge joke, takes himself way too seriously. Remember playing cash one time guy shows up clearly just looking to have a good time and drink while dumping his money. He's already down like 3k and clearly has deep pockets about half hour in but no cocktails have come around. He asks politely if he could get beverage service and John mutters something and walks off. Half hour later he says again politely "look I don't mean to be a dick, but if I can't get drink service I'm going to leave". John says "ok", goes over to get a couple racks, and tosses them on the table. Pretty sure he denied every single person on that table over 1k in equity just because he decided it wasn't his responsibility to care about drinks and wanted to make a point that everyone know that. I played close to every day there this summer before that day and was active in starting 5/10+ games. I went up and nicely informed him why I wouldn't be playing there anymore that summer. That said, the other floors while I was there were all top notch and there was one guy in particular I forget his name who went far beyond what I'd expect and would tell me about the people on the list how likely they were to want to start games etc.
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03-14-2012 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by zachvac
John's a huge joke, takes himself way too seriously. Remember playing cash one time guy shows up clearly just looking to have a good time and drink while dumping his money. He's already down like 3k and clearly has deep pockets about half hour in but no cocktails have come around. He asks politely if he could get beverage service and John mutters something and walks off. Half hour later he says again politely "look I don't mean to be a dick, but if I can't get drink service I'm going to leave". John says "ok", goes over to get a couple racks, and tosses them on the table. Pretty sure he denied every single person on that table over 1k in equity just because he decided it wasn't his responsibility to care about drinks and wanted to make a point that everyone know that. I played close to every day there this summer before that day and was active in starting 5/10+ games. I went up and nicely informed him why I wouldn't be playing there anymore that summer. That said, the other floors while I was there were all top notch and there was one guy in particular I forget his name who went far beyond what I'd expect and would tell me about the people on the list how likely they were to want to start games etc.
Not sure which John you're talking about, but I know the one who runs cash games is great and always accommodating to players. I'm gonna guess the one who's running the tournaments is different. Or at least I should certainly hope so. Some of the Wynn's poker staff is mind bogglingly dumb and some are great. I certainly feel they treat their players better than any other card room.
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03-14-2012 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by zachvac
I went up, stuck my middle finger in his face and told him to enjoy his job for the short time it'll continue to last before walking out of the wynn never to return.
sure it's immature and dumb, but would be how i'd handle it since that kind of **** makes me see red from people who are supposed to be in the business of servicing paying customers in a professional way
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03-14-2012 , 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Bikini Wax
I don't have the details of the incident, but I've played with Matt quite a bit (sober & drunk) and sure you can dislike him pretty easily but he's never been over the top out of line warranting 86'ing from anywhere
lol i actually think matt is a funny guy but i 100% disagree with this statement, as i've had a number of first hand experiences where he def should have been kicked out.
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03-14-2012 , 02:14 AM
wtf to that Bakes situation. can't even imagine that happening. would be so tilting.
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03-14-2012 , 02:45 AM
Wouldn't these things mentioned be valid if raised before the Nevada gaming Board?
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03-14-2012 , 02:58 AM
I didn't play the tournament this year, and really don't keep up on the gossip much. However I do like parking my car in the garage and walking into play w/o walking a 1/2 mile, plus of course its always nice to see the ALL the pretty skirts walking down the hallway

However, I haven't played there in about 3 weeks. I used to play there several times a week. Then a bunch of rumors starting to floating around about *some* of the "regs" colluding aginst other players. I didn't say much, but it did raise a yellow flag for me. Next, another player -who I repsect to tell me the truth objectively gave me a specific example of the alledged colusion and it did involve the players in question. Then I started hearing more about this issue from other player....you know how rumors can fly. On my second to last time playing there I expercienced the "rumors" first hand and was throughly disgusted that the integrity of the game was vilolated. Knowing this is a very serious allegation to make against a card room I casually mentioned it to one floor person who I thought I "knew" better than some other ones, however that turned negaitve quickly and just left me w/ a sick feeling. I left and choose to -go blow off some steam- and really think about what happened and was I really being reasonable. After some thought I choose to come back and play at the Wynn a few days later. After about an hour or two of play, and "hearing" the same rumors again from various players I just left, and haven't been back recently.
That said, I have made a gob of money there playing in some of the juicest games. My drive is to make money. So I'm sure I'll find myself playing there again, prolly sooner than later, I can attest to the poker room managament issues.....
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03-14-2012 , 03:11 AM
adizzy always trying to start something
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03-14-2012 , 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Under_the_Radar
I didn't play the tournament this year, and really don't keep up on the gossip much. However I do like parking my car in the garage and walking into play w/o walking a 1/2 mile, plus of course its always nice to see the ALL the pretty skirts walking down the hallway

However, I haven't played there in about 3 weeks. I used to play there several times a week. Then a bunch of rumors starting to floating around about *some* of the "regs" colluding aginst other players. I didn't say much, but it did raise a yellow flag for me. Next, another player -who I repsect to tell me the truth objectively gave me a specific example of the alledged colusion and it did involve the players in question. Then I started hearing more about this issue from other player....you know how rumors can fly. On my second to last time playing there I expercienced the "rumors" first hand and was throughly disgusted that the integrity of the game was vilolated. Knowing this is a very serious allegation to make against a card room I casually mentioned it to one floor person who I thought I "knew" better than some other ones, however that turned negaitve quickly and just left me w/ a sick feeling. I left and choose to -go blow off some steam- and really think about what happened and was I really being reasonable. After some thought I choose to come back and play at the Wynn a few days later. After about an hour or two of play, and "hearing" the same rumors again from various players I just left, and haven't been back recently.
That said, I have made a gob of money there playing in some of the juicest games. My drive is to make money. So I'm sure I'll find myself playing there again, prolly sooner than later, I can attest to the poker room managament issues.....
Can u give specifics of the hand without implicating anyone?
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03-14-2012 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
Can u give specifics of the hand without implicating anyone?
No, not in this public forum. Very sensitive subject and a very serious allegation to make.

Lets meet for coffee sometime, hell...we've prolly played at the same table before and just didn't "know" each other, LOL
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03-14-2012 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by JayLV
Not sure which John you're talking about, but I know the one who runs cash games is great and always accommodating to players. I'm gonna guess the one who's running the tournaments is different. Or at least I should certainly hope so. Some of the Wynn's poker staff is mind bogglingly dumb and some are great. I certainly feel they treat their players better than any other card room.
I'm actually not 100% sure John is his name, I'm pretty bad with names, but this guy definitely 100% matched the guy others are talking about. Was probably ~60 and super arrogant and full of himself all the time and cared more about proving he knew everything and enforcing the letter of the law (which he 100% knew since he'd been doing it forever, and he wouldn't hesitate to tell you) than actually having a pleasant environment to play poker in. There were only like 3 floor guys who rotated when I was there, but I apologize to John if I'm thinking of someone else and used his name.
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03-14-2012 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Under_the_Radar
No, not in this public forum. Very sensitive subject and a very serious allegation to make.

Lets meet for coffee sometime, hell...we've prolly played at the same table before and just didn't "know" each other, LOL
wtf is this sh*t?

you're posting from an anonymous account, about anonymous players, and you can't tell us how they're colluding?.....nice
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03-14-2012 , 01:34 PM
best part of the thread is kessler randomly chiming in with comments about adding 250-500 and 2500-5k blind levels.
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03-14-2012 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Kramerica
best part of the thread is kessler randomly chiming in with comments about adding 250-500 and 2500-5k blind levels.
beat me to it, obviously there are bigger issues at hand then blind levels here
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03-14-2012 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fslexcduck
lol i actually think matt is a funny guy but i 100% disagree with this statement, as i've had a number of first hand experiences where he def should have been kicked out.
yeah excluding the 5k PLO 2 summers ago all my play with him was cash at bellagio, so I assume he must get more drunk/more absurd playing MTTs vs HSNL cash nitballing his life away
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03-14-2012 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bakes
At this point John the floorman decided to come over and call the clock on me.
This is awful! I'm no longer playing at the Wynn either.
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03-14-2012 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by hotjenny314
This is awful! I'm no longer playing at the Wynn either.
I'll still play the 5k next year but other than that not gonna be giving them any more action til they let someone from the online community go in there and help them fix all dumb stuff that makes it so miserable to play there, they really don't treat you any differently than they treat a slot tournament player and that's the real insulting part
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03-14-2012 , 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
Hellmuth arrived day 1b. We did play some videopoker though. Check his Twitter for some jackpot photos.
Jeez, and I looked all over for FP JoB there. Looks like you guys found it with the quick quads. Ouch @ Hellmuth dropping roughly $5k net into the game at $60/deal based on twitter results; I wish I had that money to burn.

And by the sounds of this thread, the HPT may have ran like a dream vs. this tourney debacle.
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