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11-23-2014 , 03:11 PM
Curious question. If people signed onto a poker site with their Social Security #, isn't that an easy and immediate way to stop underage gambling?
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11-23-2014 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
Do you mean how awesome it was for people to lose hundreds of millions of dollars on Full Tilt due to the lack of regulation? (at least before Poker Stars saved their arse)
LOL the funny thing is that era was awsome compared to wat it is now. I had a decent amount of poker room options back then with OK-large player pools, now I have 1 regulated site Delaware poker that peaks at 21 people.


Saying back then was awesome is an understatement!
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11-23-2014 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Dantes
It was due to theft (already have laws against that) and if you think heavy regulations prevent theft, corruption, and fraud I would invite you to investigate the US banking industry. There are more banking laws than anybody can count, but it'll definitely be fixed once we get a couple more passed.
US Banking regulation is a facade. Lots of regulations on the books but they're effectively ignored by both the banks and the regulators who move in and out of the revolving door between the banking industry and government.
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11-23-2014 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
US Banking regulation is a facade. Lots of regulations on the books but they're effectively ignored by both the banks and the regulators who move in and out of the revolving door between the banking industry and government.
And that's different than poker regulation how?
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Originally Posted by Sciolist
Did you see how it WASN'T done by AB/UP? I'm surprised you don't have a long post history in politics.
I knew UB/AP was a bad actor back in 2008 and refused to play there in spite of extra monetary incentives. People who left money on there after the first cheating scandal were ignorant or taking a calculated risk. They get no sympathy from me.
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11-24-2014 , 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Sciolist
I agree that current regulation isn't good, but it wasn't all champagne and roses. Ultimate Bet, Absolute Poker, FTP, various network skins...
FTP happened under purportedly strict regulation (ARJEL). Fat lot of good that did French players.
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11-24-2014 , 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Professionalpoker
Two Plus Two recognizes this and will soon work towards integrating Twitch.tv into our site in hopes of attracting gamers to poker.
Very interested to see how you guys decide to do this
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11-24-2014 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by everydaygrind
Curious question. If people signed onto a poker site with their Social Security #, isn't that an easy and immediate way to stop underage gambling?
Why in the hell would anyone want to give up their SSN to a POKER SITE.
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11-24-2014 , 11:05 PM
What an embarrassment this all is.
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11-25-2014 , 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by aqb
Why in the hell would anyone want to give up their SSN to a POKER SITE.
It is required by law so you do or you don't play. Some sites just ask for last 4 but they still find your entire number through it.
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11-26-2014 , 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by TChan
A 28k entry level salary is more than reasonable, and I was very happy with my team starting at that salary. I'm talking about the people who came in at that number, proved themselves to be superstars, and were given either very modest or no increase.
What did your team do?

It's still naive to expect big rewards for being a superstar when those rewards aren't explicit & written in the offer. Especially from poker site.
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11-26-2014 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Pokeraddict
It is required by law so you do or you don't play. Some sites just ask for last 4 but they still find your entire number through it.
Im in delaware and we have to just send in copies of an ID or something else with relevant info. Don't think we have to mess with SS# afaik but I havnnt deposited yet nad just recently been stuck with these state room ****hole rooms.
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11-27-2014 , 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by grant2
It's still naive to expect big rewards for being a superstar when those rewards aren't explicit & written in the offer. Especially from poker site.
I think this is only true if you work for a ****ty company.
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11-28-2014 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Sciolist
I think this is only true if you work for a ****ty company.
If the company wasn't "****ty" they'd pay you what you're worth from day 1.
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11-29-2014 , 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by uradoodooface
Im in delaware and we have to just send in copies of an ID or something else with relevant info. Don't think we have to mess with SS# afaik but I havnnt deposited yet nad just recently been stuck with these state room ****hole rooms.
You'll have to give them your SSN before you can play for real money.
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11-29-2014 , 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by grant2
If the company wasn't "****ty" they'd pay you what you're worth from day 1.
You can't tell what someone's worth from day 1
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11-29-2014 , 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by aqb
Why in the hell would anyone want to give up their SSN to a POKER SITE.
Get used to it. The likelihood of at least the last four of your SSN being required for US Online Poker sign up, is very high.
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11-30-2014 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sciolist
You can't tell what someone's worth from day 1
maybe you can't, but most semi-experienced employers can. That is the whole point of interviews, salary surveys, and reference checks.

The bottom line is: if the "average" wage for position x is $60,000, and these guys are taking $30,000 to start with no guarantees, then they were suckered.

I don't have a particular problem with the company taking advantage of their new hires this way. It's a free market. Everyone has to learn life lessons sometimes and (hopefully) these guys will be wiser next time some snows them with vague promises.
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11-30-2014 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by grant2
maybe you can't, but most semi-experienced employers can. That is the whole point of interviews, salary surveys, and reference checks.
When your aim is to condescend, you should make sure you know what you're talking about.

Last edited by Sciolist; 11-30-2014 at 06:39 PM.
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11-30-2014 , 06:31 PM
The SSN is for tax purposes. You're delusional if you think you can play on a legal online site and not pay taxes on winnings.
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11-30-2014 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by The4thFilm
The SSN is for tax purposes. You're delusional if you think you can play on a legal online site and not pay taxes on winnings.
It also helps identify the player and is an additional step that prevents minors or anyone else from opening an account under another person's name.
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11-30-2014 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by The4thFilm
The SSN is for tax purposes. You're delusional if you think you can play on a legal online site and not pay taxes on winnings.
Not even close.

The ssn is only used to confirm a player's identity at sign up. It isn't stored and is never used again.

You are responsible for filing your own taxes.
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12-01-2014 , 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxRhino
Not even close.

The ssn is only used to confirm a player's identity at sign up. It isn't stored and is never used again.

You are responsible for filing your own taxes.
Interesting. Do you have some basis for your statements ? I ask because they do not ring true to me, but you may be basing them on some good, reliable source ..... so ? Id there some regulation regarding retention of records underlying establishing a player ID ?

After all, this is an account being created, why wouldn't the company keep the SSN associated with the account ?

I could look this stuff up, but you might already have the sources at hand.

When that woman won $1 million+ recently from WSOP.com in NJ, did they have to ask her "again" for her SSN or do you think they already had it on file ?
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12-01-2014 , 11:31 PM
SSN information was not stored. When Ultimate Gaming needed to send a player a W2 to comply with IRS tax laws, the player was contacted to provide that information.
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12-05-2014 , 09:19 PM
Ha no one could see this coming ... all this **** will continue to fail and bovada will continue to succeed . Lol Amurika
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03-28-2015 , 01:09 AM
Ran up $20 free dollars there to over 7.5k profit in a few months. RIP. Will always remember this site!
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