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Ultimate Bet WTF? (Hellmuth has worse hand, but pot gets shipped to him anyway) Ultimate Bet WTF? (Hellmuth has worse hand, but pot gets shipped to him anyway)

12-20-2008 , 03:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Schneids
Hellmuth initally lied to doubleballer when asked who won the pot when doubleballer showed KQ. When you are a guy who one-tables online (such as Hellmuth) and are playing HU and there are two fat-foreheaded kings on the board and your opponents cards get shown to have a KING and you have T2 for a pair of twos and then you somehow get shipped the pot, that is a tough thing to miss. THE GUY BLATANTLY LIED, whether he's in on it or not he deserves whatever he gets.
4.15am at the weekend he might not be a bit drunk?
Well, rock him anyway. He's a lier.
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12-20-2008 , 03:55 PM
I mean there is almost no chance this is a 1 in a trillion software glitch since this exact same hand scenario must have come up thousands of times before on ub and absolute.
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12-20-2008 , 04:01 PM
Pretty sure any company capable of launching and promoting an online poker site is not CAPABLE of being so dumb. Therefore there is only one explanation. The government runs UB, Phil Hellmuth is a cyborg, they are attempting to get online poker banned.
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12-20-2008 , 04:03 PM
U need to ask for more $ than what the pot was. You should never of had to do this, you take extra time out of your life to fix someone's **** UP!!!! Demand an extra couple of thousand or say you will file a complaint against them.
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12-20-2008 , 04:07 PM
god damnit i'd kill for a pokercast episode this week to talk about this... damn christmas...
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12-20-2008 , 04:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.JR
U need to ask for more $ than what the pot was. You should never of had to do this, you take extra time out of your life to fix someone's **** UP!!!! Demand an extra couple of thousand or say you will file a complaint against them.
lol file a complaint with who? yea good threat
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12-20-2008 , 04:10 PM
I actually thought this was a bs post at first...I had to ask a friend. Like I dont even know what to say.... To think I was actually going to start playing the 1k there as well as some other mtts and what not.....


Its disgraceful how Phil acts after the hand. If that had happened and I had gotten shipped the pot with a losing hand I would tell them to sit out while I called UB and straightened this out...hes one of their headline pros for godsake and he acts like this!?!? He shoulda stopped right then and there and gotten to the bottom of this....I woulda demanded games to have been stopped til this was figured out and resolved if I were Phil....just wow....there are no words for this happening or how Phil acted...

Last edited by peachy; 12-20-2008 at 04:15 PM.
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12-20-2008 , 04:14 PM
This thread is gonna blow up in 4 hours.
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12-20-2008 , 04:16 PM
Phil has alot of explaining to do that's for sure. Like how could you play a hand so terribly.. haha

Phil Hellmuth to UB = can i get insurance!!!

The way the hand was played and the chat almost seems like it wasn't Phil playing. However either way he has a lot of explaining to do. I used to think Phil was one of the more honest players but that has certainly changed since he stuck with UB and now this.

The way the hand was played almost seemed like the player was building a pot knowing it was going to be shipped to them. It's hard to believe Phil would be this dumb. The only way i will have any respect for him again is if he leaves UB immediately.
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12-20-2008 , 04:23 PM
oh
my

god

absolutely
totally
completely
utterly
100%

UNBELIEVABLE

(shaking head)

But we all do believe it. 100%

Last edited by gregorio; 12-20-2008 at 04:37 PM.
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12-20-2008 , 04:23 PM
moral of the story: DONT PLAY ON UB
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12-20-2008 , 04:24 PM
I emailed Ulimate Bet as soon i created this I am yet to still hear a reply from them.

Imagine if this happened in a major tourny on there site you are 2nd in chips only trailing by 100 or so you and the chip leader mingle with say 15 players remaining you win pot gets but it awarded to the chip leader what happens then ?!?! and your out in 15th

By the time you get onto support its too late the tourny is over.

Also i wonder if the funds that got awarded to him incorrectly will be removed from his account?
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12-20-2008 , 04:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neko
I mean there is almost no chance this is a 1 in a trillion software glitch since this exact same hand scenario must have come up thousands of times before on ub and absolute.
ya this is the most disturbing part.
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12-20-2008 , 04:26 PM
[ ] UNBELIEVABLE
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12-20-2008 , 04:26 PM
Hate to inject some actual substantive commentary, but I think it's possible that this has something to do with the stack sizes:


Seat 4 - PHILHELLMUTH ($4495 in chips)
Seat 6 - DOUBLEBALLER ($7494 in chips)

Seat 4 - PHILHELLMUTH ($7294 in chips)
Seat 6 - DOUBLEBALLER ($4694 in chips)
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12-20-2008 , 04:26 PM
ub and PH are a joke
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12-20-2008 , 04:31 PM
why are people still playing UB? I don't get it.
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12-20-2008 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by creedofhubris
Hate to inject some actual substantive commentary, but I think it's possible that this has something to do with the stack sizes:


Seat 4 - PHILHELLMUTH ($4495 in chips)
Seat 6 - DOUBLEBALLER ($7494 in chips)

Seat 4 - PHILHELLMUTH ($7294 in chips)
Seat 6 - DOUBLEBALLER ($4694 in chips)
DOUBLEBALLER = -2800
PHILHELLMUTH = +2799 ($1 for rake)

What is the problem?
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12-20-2008 , 04:35 PM
[x] JOKE CITY COMMITTEE
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12-20-2008 , 04:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by creedofhubris
Hate to inject some actual substantive commentary, but I think it's possible that this has something to do with the stack sizes:


Seat 4 - PHILHELLMUTH ($4495 in chips)
Seat 6 - DOUBLEBALLER ($7494 in chips)

Seat 4 - PHILHELLMUTH ($7294 in chips)
Seat 6 - DOUBLEBALLER ($4694 in chips)
care to elaborate why exactly?
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12-20-2008 , 04:38 PM

Last edited by Jehaim; 12-20-2008 at 04:47 PM.
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12-20-2008 , 04:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieBrent
Also i wonder if the funds that got awarded to him incorrectly will be removed from his account?
I wondered this as well. If I were you I'd be infuriated if they didn't. But then, I don't see how we're ever gonna really know.
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12-20-2008 , 04:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by creedofhubris
Hate to inject some actual substantive commentary, but I think it's possible that this has something to do with the stack sizes:


Seat 4 - PHILHELLMUTH ($4495 in chips)
Seat 6 - DOUBLEBALLER ($7494 in chips)

Seat 4 - PHILHELLMUTH ($7294 in chips)
Seat 6 - DOUBLEBALLER ($4694 in chips)
[ ] Substantive Commentary

[?] Correct use of checkbox
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12-20-2008 , 04:46 PM
I'm not an attorney, but this looks like a good lawsuit, especially given PH's actions and denials given his status with the company. Bad form Phil.
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12-20-2008 , 04:53 PM
Don't get why so many people are flaming PH, do you guys seriously think PH somehow caused the software to ship him the pot? Might have just been a software glitch or something. PH OBV knows there's railtards railing him 24/7, so why would he do it under his name and lie about DB winning the KQ hand? Maybe he wasn't paying to much attention or something...
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