Since this is all unregulated and done outside the US, who would have jurisdiction to prosecute for any of this? I think one of the reasons UB cheated so blatantly is autonomy from legal action.

Originally Posted by shaundeeb
Cyclo how is my rep going to be destroyed for my opinion lol.

From what I'm told of this superuser thing it was not like the AP one it was not done by headups in the company. From what I was told they won't be relasing the name of the culprit but it wasn't management all account names have been exposed including a few that 2+2 doesn't know about yet. Basically it was 1 guy who knew people to get account names changed and those changing didn't know why but it was a friend/employee so they did it for them.
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LOL at bolded. Also lol at releasing names 2p2 doesn't know about, when in reality they ADDED 2 names to their release immediately after 2p2 called them out on it.

Mark

that's what every amateur legalese crook who thinks they are out of jurisdiction relies on - sipping mai tais - until they get handcuffed b/c there is a little thing called extraterritorial jursdiction. ask that online gaming site operator who got arrested while overseas and dragged here. let them sit back and relax.

Pretty sure until yesterday the young guy didn't know squadoosh.

Noricha and Trambo,

I think the biggest obstacle to prosecution of Hamilton is the political leanings of the present administration. They have shown themselves committed to politicizing executive action all the way to the most mundane, trivial decisions. They are incredibly unlikely to allow the Bureau to make a high profile case against Hamilton that would effectively benefit the very activity (online poker) their political benefactors (rank and file conservatives, Tribal Casino's and Harrah's) wish to be outlawed.

While I'm sure the Administration and other anti-online gambling forces would love to stick it to UB/Hamilton, they probably realize that they can stick it to all of online poker by declining to regulate or protect customers/players.

no everyone just talks about whats gonna happen. I posted this on this on teh last page and not one person made mention to it. Perhaps I should have sent it to Nat to post.

To those that think that this is somehow unenforceable by law enforcement agencies, you are wrong

Another Rack,

Any chance of getting back in touch with the kid in order to speak/chat with Haim? I'd be curious to see how Haim (are they Sr./Jr.?) would respond to knowing his name is all over this scandal and linked to a superuser account.

I knew if I dug through the p5's archives I could find the threads from the Duke-Reitman thing from the Stone Cold Nuts II:

the thread i made - http://www.pocketfives.com/poker-for...43?PageIndex=1

some other threads -

http://www.pocketfives.com/poker-for...-webcast-20979

http://www.pocketfives.com/poker-for...83?PageIndex=1

http://www.pocketfives.com/poker-for...Is-Annie-46850

I don't disagree with you on that but i don't think that is the major one. The soverignty and comity issues are bigger because of the fact that othr countries have formally legalized it and some in fact have licensed it in their territories so it becomes less of a domestic matter but also one of a foreign relations and int'l commerce issue. US has had zero problems in the past by making its rules and using whatever loose interpretation of statutes to go after someone but it has typically hit the skids when dealing with sovereignty issues.

I also think that in today's national climate, all beuracrats and even republicans will not place too much pressure on themselves to stick with this administrations stance - they may even want to distance themselves - at least until november passes. i'm such a skeptic, i know.

Okay I talked to Isrelly@aol.com (I just entered it in the AIM) yesterday. When I spoke with him I was convinced he knew nothing about this. By the end of our discussion I think he had a good idea what was going on, because I told him. He knows these threads exist.

You have to understand our converdation was a bit weird because I really don't think he knows anything about Internet Poker other than it exists. He was really concerned about his Identity being "out on the internet".

If I was in his shoes I'd be creeped out too.

I've only seen him once on AIM since our chat and he ignored me.

Noricha,

I essentially agree, but I do have an academic disagreement. If this was a matter that the Administration had an interest in, it probably would not be very hard for them to induce Costa Rica's cooperation in getting a hold of Hamilton if he was hiding there.

This was a really dumb move IMO.

I tend to doubt that Haim (Jr) knows nothing about this. I think hes just playing dumb

did the dirt nat was talking about ever come out