It's one of the oldest money laundering methods. Converting cash into Real Estate.

"Poker Players I Respect Most: Russ Hamilton"

Wow. UB were dumb enough to cheat their own props? How ****ing stupid do you have to be to cheat your own employees who are there to help the site grow?!

Low stakes players should take heed.

1) Cheating has been going on since early 2005 at minimum.
2) More than a few people were involved. You can be sure it spread by word of mouth.

Consider that someone learns of the ability from someone else and wants to get started to reap the benefits. Do you really think, even with all the money transfers going on, that someone will use their own ill gotten gain to stake the new guy? Not when it would only take six months or less to run $100 up to $100K or more. The people doing this were obviously very greedy. They have no incentive to seed someone else, when they can do it for themselves.

3) UB was not "finding" superusers unless they were already found out by 2+2. Does anyone believe that UB would bother to check any lower stakes games for superuser activity? You can be sure that they would limit the search engine to mid and higher stakes games. Why? Because they don't ever want it known that the low stakes games were rotten, because that is where their future clientele is coming from. Lower stakes players have one thing in common. They do not use PokerTracker or any other program that would spot the anomalies that caught the cheaters. Therefore the people at 2+2 will never find the low level cheating, so why should UB bother to look?

I stopped playing on every (US) site except Stars because of the KGC connection. Now I find that 'Network Status' shows that Stars is still linked to Kahnawake(MIT). We need to bring down the cheaters before I deposit another dime anywhere.

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For those of you unaware, AP and UB will be merging together later this year.

Also wow. I am hoping this may be because both sites have lost lots of players. If this is actually true, I'd imagine it's pretty good for us - at least there'll only be one site out there that we have to try and persuade everybody not to play on.

Russ giveith and Russ takeith away

Can anyone find out the address of Houston Curtis? The closest I could get is he is in Los Angeles, California.
hes married to Bonnie Buckley if that helps http://insideweddings.com/real-weddi...book-wedding/6
some more useless info on Houston Curtis-
http://www.linkedin.com/profile?view...6429753077_out

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Whats the chances this is the same Bonnie and Houston Curtis we're talking about?
Name: Bonnie and Houston Curtis
Company: The Walt Disney Company
Company Address: 500 South Buena Vista Street
Burbank, CA 91521-0001
http://center.spoke.com/secure/perso...ail.spoke?key=[serverID=center,ID=50392007]
According to HouseFront, thats roughly a $450,000 piece of real estate...Maybe they use the superuser money to invest, or just money laundering through real estate...or it just might be a different Bonnie and Houston Curtis
http://www.housefront.com/PropertyDe...pertyID=824655

http://preview.ussearch.com/preview/...archtab=people

Is Jim Rockford available to narrow it down?

According to poker scout ub is doing so much better than absolute poker at the moment.That doesent make sense?Is ub manipulating their amount of players with their wacky software or do people just want to play on a discredited site.

Both sites higher stakes games have suffered.

AP has manipulated the numbers on their site by creating more freerolls and increasing dramatically the number of players they allow to play each freeroll. They have lowered some quarantees, removed some games completely, and they still have overlay in their bigger MTT's. Their SNG's volumes are way down too.

I'm sure their overall profit has taken a noticable hit since the scandal.

I'm through posting about this (barring anything extraordinary occurring) as circumstances dictate that I do so.

There are really only two ways forward at this point. One is to get outside 3rd parties involved in order to convert the story from a niche internet situation into a full blown multimillion dollar fraud/criminal investigation. Energy focused on this avenue should multiply. I still believe working angles to force Phil Hellmuth to have his nose rubbed in this is an important part (ie his sponsors)

The second is that online poker players need to wise up and from a true player's organization. The sites have the PPA, now the players need one. A player's organization formed out of the aftermath of this episode could go a long ways in allowing the road forward and out of this mess to be a more sturdy one. The key is numbers of course and players have shown an amazing ability to resist organization unless paid to join. A PO could live on and cause sites to be more responsive to players in a lot of areas; game selection, tourney schedules, promotions, support resolution, pro player health insurance and a hundred other items. Its called LEVERAGE and right now players have ZERO. People wonder why UB traffic is up right now. Truth is we don't know that it is; sites have admitted to using basic breakeven bots to start games, keep games running. For all we know UB is getting crushed right now and ginning up the stats. When the crap hit the fan a week or two ago, Scout shows them dropping WAY off. A PO could coordinate meaningful boycotts which would FORCE rooms to assent to the will of the customer. Rooms believe they are offering a product. You and I know they are providing a SERVICE and the difference is substantial in how you treat your customers. If you believe these two scandals are the extent of cheating, then GL to you going forward because things are going to get worse.

If somebody decides to seriously consider building a PO, keep me in mind as I would be happy to write copy, position papers, etc etc. Until then happy hunting and I hope the real perps are captured/killed (err wait, thats bin laden copy not poker cheats) so, captured/tried/convicted/forced to play every hand UTG for the rest of their lives, etc etc.

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I'm done before it gets to that stage
gl everyone

Follow the money to Tokwiro - Injun Joe Norton

why aren't people exploitig the media option more.

We're sitting around for months waiting for 60min to make this a national story. Has anyone called date line? cnn? ny times, wsj, etc etc? this is a breaking news story that will get much better coverage now than in 2-3months when 60min is done.

Its a story with a good lead, and interesting developments, 60min thinks so apparently, why shouldnt anyone else realize it? Someone with some person connection to the story should start calling news rooms.

I have emailed links to msnbc, several sports blogs, and also a friend who is a columnist at the phhiladelphia inquirer. Im hoping someone returns these emails tomorrow since I sent saturday mornin. My buddy at the inquirer would like to run the story, but unfortunately its not up to him. Also, a lawyer friend of mine has confirmed what skallagrim among others have said. If we can get proof that russ h was using these super user accounts from his residense in nevada, he can be in serious ****.