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Old 10-15-2010, 11:02 PM   #1
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UB Owners Suggest New Cheating Discovered

Today, lawyers for ex-UB shareholders dropped a one page pdf about being stiffed on the $120M deal they made after UIGEA. The new owners of UB/AP are apparently planning to fight to get out of the deal and in this new bit of information, Joe Norton/Paul Leggett is alleging "newly discovered" cheating at UB over and above what has already been reported. They dropped the news on a Friday evening to keep it low-key, but it seems pretty important and definitely a new wrinkle to the scandal. I linked to the PDF but apparently someone had trouble with it and user fredd-bird was cool to create a png out of it. (I spose I could have just opened photoshop but the pdf is working fine for me)

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Old 10-15-2010, 11:09 PM   #2
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in on ground floor of first ever UB cheating scandal thread
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Old 10-15-2010, 11:13 PM   #3
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**** ub, **** ap
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Old 10-15-2010, 11:15 PM   #4
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probably the bad beat jackpot.. that thing was so fishy
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Old 10-15-2010, 11:18 PM   #5
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Old 10-15-2010, 11:19 PM   #6
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wowowwowo agains, withdraw peace
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Old 10-15-2010, 11:20 PM   #7
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Do you have anymore information on this OP?
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Old 10-15-2010, 11:22 PM   #8
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Your kidding a cheating scandle at Ub/Absolute....unreal ..Im shocked ...cant believe it...never thought this would happen!
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Old 10-15-2010, 11:26 PM   #9
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*cough*XBLINK*cough*
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Old 10-15-2010, 11:28 PM   #10
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It could be anything but yeah, the BBJ and XBLINK are/were both very suspicious
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Old 10-15-2010, 11:28 PM   #11
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Even though I did get a nice chunk from the BBJ, ha
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Old 10-15-2010, 11:30 PM   #12
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What happened with a BBJ that was suspicious? and how much ya get air? haha
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Old 10-15-2010, 11:31 PM   #13
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Do you have anymore information on this OP?
Essentially, the company is not doing well compared to historical performance. They made this deal in 2006 prior the cheating revelations and after, the parties came together to figure out how to crawl through a river of **** and come out clean on the other side. The claimed to have paid out $22M but there is no proof of that number. Players cannot ask for and receive full HH files though there is no good explanation why. Nobody has been prosecuted though nobody at the firms or KGC will say which law enforcement agency was given information.

So after several renegotiations to cut the monthly nut on the purchase price, Blast Off has apparently and finally defaulted on the notes. The organization (Avoine) which claimed security in the AP and UB.com side is suspected to be father/son teams; Phil/Scott Tom and Oscar Hilt Tatum III/Oscar Hilt Tatum IV, the original investors behind AP.

The Excapsa shareholders are being asked to hold on to a bag and it looks like they may decide to fight for the assets which could finally allow a lot of information to arise about what really happened at the companies. Example, statements have been constant about former owners/managers not being there after the cheating (or even the sale in some cases). A legal case might prove otherwise. Some of these owners have been directly accused of the cheating though they have not been charged.

btw the pdf is in the locked thread, it should work fine for you if you want a clearer copy.

I also recently came to a conclusionadditional cheating (not counting the BBJ/XBLINK issues) occurred at the site.

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Old 10-15-2010, 11:54 PM   #14
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Old 10-15-2010, 11:59 PM   #15
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i am happy i jumped ship at ub 3 years ago

POKERSTARS is great i wish i made the move sooner
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