Two Plus Two Wins Summary Judgment Against Dutch Boyd - Page 9 - Poker News

JackOfSpeed · 03-04-2012, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by WiCane

Are you the real Scott Tom? If so, don't you have a part in the AP/UB scandal? If so I don't think you should be commenting on people being scummy.

The amateur sleuths revealed that an observer was able to watch a collaborating cheater and win thousands of hands of poker against unsuspecting players.

The IP address and account name of this ‘observer’ were traced to a set of servers that hosts Absolute Poker, and in particular to Scott Tom.

Gonna go out on a limb here and say that, if the real Scott Tom is posting on twoplustwo, he is not using "Scott Tom" as his username.

duh · 03-04-2012, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WiCane

Are you the real Scott Tom? If so, don't you have a part in the AP/UB scandal? If so I don't think you should be commenting on people being scummy.

The amateur sleuths revealed that an observer was able to watch a collaborating cheater and win thousands of hands of poker against unsuspecting players.

The IP address and account name of this ‘observer’ were traced to a set of servers that hosts Absolute Poker, and in particular to Scott Tom.

Level of the Year?

lozen · 03-04-2012, 08:17 PM

Hey if you can patent a hoodie with wires in it Why cant dutch register that name? Maybe you should have secured it along time ago?

D.S. · 03-04-2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by WiCane

Are you the real Scott Tom? If so, don't you have a part in the AP/UB scandal? If so I don't think you should be commenting on people being scummy.

The amateur sleuths revealed that an observer was able to watch a collaborating cheater and win thousands of hands of poker against unsuspecting players.

The IP address and account name of this ‘observer’ were traced to a set of servers that hosts Absolute Poker, and in particular to Scott Tom.

Just in case some people are really this dumb, no, it's not the real Scott Tom.

**Professionalpoker** · 03-04-2012, 08:37 PM

It might actually be Scott Tom, just not that Scott Tom.
/derail

HENLEYS · 03-04-2012, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by D.S.

Just in case some people are really this dumb, no, it's not the real Scott Tom.

I guess working the Neg Feedback thread really can make you lose your faith in humanity!

RosieTheGreat · 03-04-2012, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Hughes

Mr. Malmuth did a great thing here for poker. Poker needs honesty. In writing about poker history, the "easy riders", road gamblers. that spread poker across this nation needed a suitcase, a bankroll, a gun, and their absolute word for telling the truth. Bets are verbal. Deals are verbal. A man is as good as his word. In my early days, the word would spread, "he ain't no good. His word ain't no good."

Dutch and the Full Tilt continuing criminal enterprise should be barred from major tournaments. Folks that borrowed and didn't pay back or scammed stake horses were barred from the main Texas games often.
Cheaters were barred or much worse. At the Shop, West Texas big, and long-running poker palace, if a stiff showed up, anyone he owed money would quit. We don't want to play against our own money. We don't want to see a scammer winning which puts us in a bad mood. Harrah's should have their own "blacklist" of poker scammers and tell them to steal down the street. Go rob somebody else, and do not hustle our honest players.

A gambler's reputation is his stock in trade.

Doc Holliday did a lot to clean up poker in Texas. He had a series of gambling disputes usually with bullies who were cheating. He killed folks over poker in Dallas, two or three in Jacksboro, two in Fort Griffin. One was looking at the discards, was told not to, and continued. Doc took the pot. The guy went for a gun but Doc was faster with his knife. In the biggest fanciest gambling joints in the Old West, the Oriental Saloon in Tombstone and later, the White Elephant in Ft. Worth, four great friends worked at the same time: Wyatt Earp, Doc Holliday, Bat Masterson, and Luke Short. They had each other's backs in several boom towns. They were nationally famous. People did not cheat because they were afraid of them. People did not cause trouble because they were afraid of them. They could have the highest poker of the day, and it was honest, because cheating meant death. We need to go back to poker's origins and keep the scammers out of the poker tournaments and gambling joints.

TwoPlusTwo does a big service in spreading the word about scams and scammers. The first signal is that they are looking to get staked. Not everybody playing stake money is a scammer, but every scammer is looking for stake money.

I find this post odd as you always defended this scummy d-bag (talking about boyd)

Scott Tom · 03-04-2012, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by D.S.

Just in case some people are really this dumb, no, it's not the real Scott Tom.

Scott Tom has used a similar IP before though to the one I am on now, he lived near where I am in this city once.

But no, I think the real Scott Tom is hiding in Belize or Antigua. That's my best guess. And yes, my name is Tom and I'm a Scot.

Scott Tom · 03-04-2012, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by WiCane

Are you the real Scott Tom? If so, don't you have a part in the AP/UB scandal? If so I don't think you should be commenting on people being scummy.

The amateur sleuths revealed that an observer was able to watch a collaborating cheater and win thousands of hands of poker against unsuspecting players.

The IP address and account name of this ‘observer’ were traced to a set of servers that hosts Absolute Poker, and in particular to Scott Tom.

I know people (peons) who worked at AB under him. They didn't know of what he (or any of the executives) did exactly, but they knew he was absolute scum. Also, Dutch is friendly with Scott Tom the WSOP bracelet holder, what a coincidence that is.

Sorry to squat on such a revered person's name itt. That's irony.

tamiller866 · 03-04-2012, 11:25 PM

The legal fees aren't just for filing an ACPA complaint and a motion for summary judgement, they spent most of 2010 defending Boyd's motion to dismiss along with his frivolous counter claims.

Boyd has no one to blame but himself for keeping MM's lawyers on the clock, considering that he agreed to the TOS when opening an account on 2+2, and also registered a second domain (TWOPLUSPOKER.com), he's fortunate the statutory award wasn't much higher.

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On January 12, 2010, Defendant filed an answer and counterclaims for defamation, defamation per se, intentional infliction of emotional distress, intentional interference with prospective economic advantage and abuse of process. On September 30, 2010, the Court denied Defendant’s motion to dismiss and granted Plaintiff’s motion to dismiss Defendant’s counterclaims. Now Plaintiff seeks summary judgment on its claim for violation of the ACPA.

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Defendant was put on notice of Two Plus Two’s federally protected marks on November 25, 2008. Boyd became the registered user “Dutchalicious” at the <twoplustwo.com> online forums. Before his membership was accepted and activated, he was required to contractually agree to Two Plus Two’s terms and conditions. Those terms and conditions notified Boyd of Plaintiff’s intellectual property rights in the Marks. Boyd expressly agreed not to display or use the Marks in any manner. Therefore, even if 15 U.S.C. § 1111 applies, Boyd was adequately notified of Plaintiff’s rights.

SharkBaitAA · 03-05-2012, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Atarirob

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_B...ot_controversy

So basically a warm up to FTP a decade later...nice, never knew this story until today!

Prospace · 03-05-2012, 12:59 AM

I agree with only one thing, that Two Plus Two should be given the domain. What I don't agree with is a summary judgement. Dutch was unable to defend his position because it was a summary. I do know Dutch but haven't talked to him in 5 months or so. I'm for freedom of the internet yet agree with him losing the domain. Yet cases like this cannot be judged by judges who know nothing about the internet. This is why Icann has a internal court system that rules on domains. Recently, Pokerstrategy.com started attacking poker affiliates for using terms "Poker Strategy" in their domain names. They are not violating trademarks because these are generic terms. It's like starting a site called coldbeer.com then suing any company that puts cold beer on their coolers.

I am an investigative reporter and will follow up on this. Keep in mind I'm very grateful to Twoplustwo for allowing me my Caesars Thread. This is by no means an attack on two plus two but rather on Summary judgements that are too harsh for the act. In addition, I would like to point out that Two Plus Two's firm Greenberg Taurig is most likely the reason they got the domain in such a manner. Greenberg Taurig who I might add is also the attorneys for PPA, have been involved in many scandals and wrong doings in the past. Namely the Jack Abramoff scandal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenberg_Traurig

In my opinion, the Judge is simply giving them the win because of who they are and who Dutch isn't. The fees are extraordinary for the matter involved.

Prospace · 03-05-2012, 01:17 AM

First off is this Judges name correct in article? http://www.parttimepoker.com/two-plus-two-dutch-boyd

Because I only see a http://www.nvd.uscourts.gov/bio/KentJDawson.aspx
Kent J Dawson ???

**Professionalpoker** · 03-05-2012, 01:55 AM

You may have missed this post earlier. I suggest that you read it fully, it includes the judge's name at the end.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/83597418/O...Two-v-Boyd-MSJ

Quote from the decision:
Fifth, the express purpose of registering the sites, as admitted by Defendant, was to include on them links of websites offering similar or identical goods and services to those of Plaintiff. The inclusion of the word “poker” in the domain only heightened the likelihood of confusion and created the possibility of harm to Plaintiff’s goodwill. Sixth, Defendant expressly offered the domain for sale or transfer for several years before letting the domain name expire. Despite Defendant’s belated offer to transfer the domain name if Plaintiff paid for the fees, this only happened after Plaintiff began asserting its rights. Therefore, there is no question of fact regarding Defendant’s effort to profit from the registration

Prospace · 03-05-2012, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Professionalpoker

You may have missed this post earlier. I suggest that you read it fully, it includes the judge's name at the end.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/83597418/O...Two-v-Boyd-MSJ

Quote from the decision:
Fifth, the express purpose of registering the sites, as admitted by Defendant, was to include on them links of websites offering similar or identical goods and services to those of Plaintiff. The inclusion of the word “poker” in the domain only heightened the likelihood of confusion and created the possibility of harm to Plaintiff’s goodwill. Sixth, Defendant expressly offered the domain for sale or transfer for several years before letting the domain name expire. Despite Defendant’s belated offer to transfer the domain name if Plaintiff paid for the fees, this only happened after Plaintiff began asserting its rights. Therefore, there is no question of fact regarding Defendant’s effort to profit from the registration

Yes thanks. I've already been looking him up and don't like what I see. There are many tech sites and domain sites against the past rulings of this judge. He is generally mocked in the tech world and is completely out of touch with the internet.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...rademark/all/1