taking more money out of the casino profits ='s taking more money from the playahs, DUCY?

However, the apparent tax proposal is 15% from 10% so it is not drastic or mind blowingly bad above the industry standard (which is 10%)

Which is the same (higher rake).

if player tax rates are unsustainable the whole system will collapse DUCY?

Is it?

Am I wrong or are the casinos earning X regardless and this bill now says the government is entitled to .15*X instead of .1*X

Maybe casinos will be fine with "only" 10 to 15% increase and rake stays the same this way, but...
Just look at .ES, .IT. and .FR poker sites.

Governments wanted bigger cuts and poker sites increased their rake. Players are the one paying the difference.
But yeah, numbers are higher than 15%.

edit: (Difference between ROW sites and ES/IT/FR sites.)

There is no direct linear correlation between raising the business tax on whoever is offering online games and the rake the sites will charge. How much rake the sites can charge is determined by consumer demand.

Is it possible that players will end up paying a large share of the tax through increased rake? Yes
Is it possible that the (theoretically in place) rake was already at or near it's maximum for consumer demand and the sites eat the tax increase cost? Yes

Without empirical evidence it's impossible to know. Simply saying higher business taxes automatically equals higher rake is not true. Therefore, a tax increase on the sites is better than one on the players.

Looking at the evidence coreysteel says exists from stars euro iterations is better than thinking that increased business tax simply means increased rake.

Are you sure it's time to already start sucking each other's dicks? The way I understand it is a conditional veto is a MAYBE he'll pass it if they agree to his small changes. Let's say he asked for 3 changes, we give him 3/3. Now isn't there some time for whatever powers that may be (such as religious tards) to intervene and convince him to veto the bill altogether even with the changes. And is there any chance he picked a conditional veto with the full intent to kill it when it gets sent back to his desk cause he doesn't seem like a full enemy to poker players. Historically what is the success rate of conditionally vetod bills actually passing when the writers agree to the changes?

His public statement showed a pretty clear commitment IMO: http://diamondflushpoker.com/2013/02...s-look-do-able

I think it's a real longshot that anti-gambling forces or political games could change his mind at this point.

Gov. Christie tweeted his support for online poker in NJ: @GovChristie: I support online gaming w/ safeguards in place 2 limit risk of gambling addiction while fostering revitalization of AC http://t.co/0kCKVfli

Let retweet and reply with a thank you! https://twitter.com/GovChristie/stat...35932607422465

So when is the next deadline for this to take effect?

Great job on the New Jersey advocacy everyone! We really made a difference here. Now, let's keep up the pressure there and across the country!

1. Let's retweet & favorite today's action plan HERE and HERE, share it on our Facebook walls HERE, and share it via Google+ HERE.
2. Let's retweet NJ Gov. Chris Christie pro-poker tweet and reply with a tweet of thanks! HERE
3. Let's make & like poker posts on Gov. Rick Scott's (R-FL) Facebook wall HERE. Speed tip for "likes": Hit CTRL-F, search for "poker", and hit the "highlight" option.
4. If you live in New Jersey, please call Gov. Christie at 609-292-6000 to thank him for supporting online poker and to tell him that you want him to sign A2578 as soon as it's back on his desk.
5. Please reply in this thread with "tweeted", "done", etc. to encourage others. Thanks for participating!

He will be my 1st call in the am!

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Great job on the New Jersey advocacy everyone! We really made a difference here. Now, let's keep up the pressure there and across the country!

1. Let's retweet & favorite today's action plan HERE, HERE, and HERE, share it on our Facebook walls HERE, and share it via Google+ HERE.
2. Let's send Governor-elect Jay Inslee (D-WA) & Gov. Neil Abercrombie (D-HI) prefilled poker tweets: HERE and HERE.
3. Let's keep making & liking poker posts on Gov. Rick Scott's (R-FL) Facebook wall HERE. Speed tip for "likes": Hit CTRL-F, search for "poker", and hit the "highlight" option.
4. Let's make & like poker posts on this NJ online poker bill article: HERE
5. If you live in New Jersey, please call Gov. Christie at 609-292-6000 to thank him for supporting online poker and to tell him that you want him to sign A2578 as soon as it's back on his desk.
6. Please reply in this thread with "tweeted", "done", etc. to encourage others. Thanks for participating!

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Great job on the New Jersey advocacy everyone. We really made a difference. Now, let's keep it up across America!

1. Let's retweet & favorite today's action plan HERE and HERE, share it on our Facebook walls HERE, and share it via Google+ HERE.
2. Let's send PA Gov. Tom Corbett & CO Gov. John Hickenlooper prefilled poker tweets: HERE and HERE
3. Let's make & like poker posts on IA Gov Terry Branstad's Facebook wall: HERE
4. Let's wrap up making & liking poker posts on a NJ online poker bill article. There are a few opponents trying to debate us: HERE
5. Please reply in this thread with "tweeted", "done", etc. to encourage others. Thanks for participating!

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