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Old 04-16-2013, 07:44 PM   #46
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Read through some of the indictment pretty quickly.

Looks like Justin Smith, Abe, Feldman and Edler were allegedly involved in bookmaking. I didn't see their names in the counts related to running a poker game (like Bloom).

Why is Edler not in the list of names, but he shows up in the indictment?
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:07 PM   #47
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re: The Trincher Family, Abe Mosseri, Justin "Boosted J" Smith, John Hanson in Fed Sting

yep, it's Boosted:

"Federal authorities in New York unsealed a 27-count indictment today against 34 individuals, charging them with operating an illegal sports betting and poker syndicate that reaped tens of millions of dollars in proceeds and had extensive ties to Russian organized crime. Included among the named defendants are World Poker Tour champions Vadim Trincher and Justin Smith, World Series of Poker bracelet winners Abe Mosseri and Bill Edler, and several other high-stakes poker pros"......

http://www.bluff.com/news/high-stake...ng-case-41103/

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Old 04-16-2013, 08:40 PM   #48
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re: The Trincher Family, Abe Mosseri, Justin "Boosted J" Smith, John Hanson in Fed Sting

joe the hammer I guess he is some type of metal worker.
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:46 PM   #49
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re: The Trincher Family, Abe Mosseri, Justin "Boosted J" Smith, John Hanson in Fed Sting

This clears up why nobody ever beat the crap out of Abe Mosseri when he's screaming at one of the other players.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:05 PM   #50
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re: The Trincher Family, Abe Mosseri, Justin "Boosted J" Smith, John Hanson in Fed Sting

Guess while Terrorist are blowing up bombs at marathons. The feds are off chasing illegal poker games that have ties to the russian mob.


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Old 04-16-2013, 09:11 PM   #51
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re: The Trincher Family, Abe Mosseri, Justin "Boosted J" Smith, John Hanson in Fed Sting

If it is that Justin Smith or not, this may help figure it out if it matches (from the indictment itself):

Name: JUSTIN SMITH
AKA: (Blank-none listed for him)
Age: 25
Residence: Los Angeles, CA



Charges:

18 USC 1955
(Operating an Illegal
Gambling Business);
31 USC 5363 and
5366 (Unlawful
Internet Gambling)


Maximum Penalty:

10 years in prison, six
years of supervised
release; $500,000 fine or
twice the amount gained
from the crimes or twice
the amount lost by
victims; $200 special
assessment

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Old 04-16-2013, 09:17 PM   #52
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re: The Trincher Family, Abe Mosseri, Justin "Boosted J" Smith, John Hanson in Fed Sting

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If it is that Justin Smith or not, this may help figure it out if it matches (from the indictment itself):

Name: JUSTIN SMITH
AKA: (Blank-none listed for him)
Age: 25
Residence: Los Angeles, CA



Charges:

10 years in prison, six
years of supervised
release; $500,000 fine or
twice the amount gained
from the crimes or twice
the amount lost by
victims; $200 special
assessment


Maximum Penalty:

10 years in prison, six
years of supervised
release; $500,000 fine or
twice the amount gained
from the crimes or twice
the amount lost by
victims; $200 special
asse
Not good news for Mr.Smith. Just shocking how serious these charges are and players with such high profile names being involved. Pretty messed up if they were just playing poker.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:24 PM   #53
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its pretty clear from the indictment they were taking sports bets.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:24 PM   #54
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31 USC 5363 and
5366 (Unlawful
Internet Gambling)

What is that?

Edit:

"
No person engaged in the business of betting or wagering may knowingly accept, in connection with the participation of another person in unlawful Internet gambling—
(1) credit, or the proceeds of credit, extended to or on behalf of such other person (including credit extended through the use of a credit card);
(2) an electronic fund transfer, or funds transmitted by or through a money transmitting business, or the proceeds of an electronic fund transfer or money transmitting service, from or on behalf of such other person;
(3) any check, draft, or similar instrument which is drawn by or on behalf of such other person and is drawn on or payable at or through any financial institution; or
(4) the proceeds of any other form of financial transaction, as the Secretary and the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System may jointly prescribe by regulation, which involves a financial institution as a payor or financial intermediary on behalf of or for the benefit of such other person."
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:30 PM   #55
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31 USC 5363 and
5366 (Unlawful
Internet Gambling)

What is that?

Edit:

"
No person engaged in the business of betting or wagering may knowingly accept, in connection with the participation of another person in unlawful Internet gambling—
(1) credit, or the proceeds of credit, extended to or on behalf of such other person (including credit extended through the use of a credit card);
(2) an electronic fund transfer, or funds transmitted by or through a money transmitting business, or the proceeds of an electronic fund transfer or money transmitting service, from or on behalf of such other person;
(3) any check, draft, or similar instrument which is drawn by or on behalf of such other person and is drawn on or payable at or through any financial institution; or
(4) the proceeds of any other form of financial transaction, as the Secretary and the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System may jointly prescribe by regulation, which involves a financial institution as a payor or financial intermediary on behalf of or for the benefit of such other person."
The UIGEA ..... which raises an opportunity to litigate whether poker is covered, a case which the PA's litigation team has long sought.

However, the expected response from the PPA LSN:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQFEY9RIRJA
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:30 PM   #56
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This clears up why nobody ever beat the crap out of Abe Mosseri when he's screaming at one of the other players.
This was one of the first things I thought also, but i'm not sure if Jerome in cell block D will follow that trend.

Boosted J plays in a lot of big games, so he very well may have just been playing poker, but who knows. The charges look pretty rough.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:31 PM   #57
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im going to do some pretty rampant speculation based upon the little that i know, but this is what i think is most likely:

boosted plays in high stakes games in hollywood. people talk about placing bets on w/e sporting event. boosted says, hey i got a guy that can handle as much action as you want. random rich person says okay book it for me. boosted then emails or texts the action to his guy, prob ilya or one of his suboridnates. or they have a website that he can book it through. boosted then gets 10% of the players losses as payment for referral.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:32 PM   #58
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re: The Trincher Family, Abe Mosseri, Justin "Boosted J" Smith, John Hanson in Fed Sting

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If it is that Justin Smith or not, this may help figure it out if it matches (from the indictment itself):

Name: JUSTIN SMITH
AKA: (Blank-none listed for him)
Age: 25
Residence: Los Angeles, CA



Charges:

18 USC 1955
(Operating an Illegal
Gambling Business);
31 USC 5363 and
5366 (Unlawful
Internet Gambling)


Maximum Penalty:

10 years in prison, six
years of supervised
release; $500,000 fine or
twice the amount gained
from the crimes or twice
the amount lost by
victims; $200 special
assessment

indictment says forfeiture of any assets or value of such gained from [illegal] activity.

he's f*****.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:36 PM   #59
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Hope it's not boosted for his sake - he would not enjoy the joint
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:41 PM   #60
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Hope it's not boosted for his sake - he would not enjoy the joint
I think we have confirmed its him but who honestly would ever enjoy the joint? lol
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