glad to see stars taking action on this. sne or not, slowing down the game for everyone else is unacceptable, especially in cash games where fewer tables and quicker actions might just result in the same amount of raked hands.

I am also shooting for sne and know the importance of time bank for some of the tougher decisions, but those specialists who fill the chat with the time running out warning on every single decision should maybe take a minute to think about why a behaviour that they would never have in real life - abusing other peoples patience - should be acceptable while playing online.

Bob please stop using stalling (not just you) as if it doesnt have a specific meaning in terms of game play.

Could you also answer this?

If you are taking the maximum time allowable on every single hand of every single tournament then you are clearly playing too many tables.

Couldn't stars just calculate the average time it takes for someone to make a decision. And then they could calculate and check so that you on average are within some % of player pool regarding decision time on average.

If you aint quick enough for 24tbls then they would restrict you to like 20, and then 16 if you still can't keep up with the flow of the games.
This would only apply to ppl playing like 6 tbls + or something.

i generally max out out at about 8-10tbls when i play. i know there are people that can play many more efficiently...there are also some who play a bunch who clearly can't do it efficiently. i'm pretty much a rec player and i can play that number of tables and beat the games i play. it's not a poker sites duty to provide a situation for a 'pro' to make a living. you have no divine right to the fish--don't abuse it. poker is just a game after all. let's all sit around and wait for the pro to make his decisions on 20+tbls every single hand on every single street while timing out constantly etc..not very professional imo.

the time alotted to make decisions is pretty fair. and clearly there are situations in tourneys where stalling can be part of the game etc. it's also pretty obvious when someone is playing too many tables.

that literally never happens barring someone going MIA w TN on.

fml need to selfban again stupid NVG threads.

This

And why exactly shouldn't they be? These people are the lifeblood of the games. How can anyone not see that?

I smell a conspiracy, Is it possible poker stars needed regs to build the brand to where it is now in the world of poker? but now would rather new and bad players pass money around than have a good player take money out every month.

Could this be one of many sly way to start culling good regs from the game.
even if they can get rid off 100ish winning regs or put pressure for them to the point that one could not play there natural game, I am sure that stars can keep 100s of thousands of $ on circulation, as if you are a winning player you would not deposit and only cash out.

I don't know im just putting it out there, I could be very wrong.

This!

I don't think it's that undeserved tbh

seems a bit like that. maybe it has to do with that it is a stagnating market now. each new fish they bring to the table comes with a price tag (advertisement and so on), so they defend them. could be wrong too, though. AM not a casino.

who gives a crap how many tables you play or that your sne. That gives you no right to stink up the game for everyone else by slowing down the games because of your greed. Play less tables. Hopefully this sorts you out.

The email states he was taking the maximum amount of time on every single hand

funny discussion. maybe stars should think about some changes to either the software or the terms of use or both. i just think the way they deal with it is a bit out of line.

I play 24 cashgame on my cheap laptop with no mouse and i never timebank. I take 3 sec to act. I dont understand how this ******ed supernova reg can take so much time.

The guy is just ****ing stalling. Ban him for life. **** his money and his career. 1 reg kickout is good for everyone

you forgot taking a piss, making something to eat and having a chat on the phone

Just wow to the posts in this thread, at no point does it mention i am maxing out hands reguarly, lets see, i have 3million hands in my database and i maxed out the time for whatever reason 3 times...Please ban me from playing so many tables ive committed a huge crime here

Which is factually inaccurate, according to the OP, who I have played with, and he doesn't stall needlessly as far as I can tell

So much NVG aids posters in the thread, if Stars has data that says he's slowing down the game in all of his games then fair enough, but they haven't claimed that here, they've claimed he played too slowly in 3 games, which I assume is because someone he was playing with got pissed and reported him.

If Stars is going to threaten to penalise players for acting too slowly they need to provide proof that said player is actually acting more than a standard deviation slower than whatever the mean is

Without having read the whole thread:
This is totally ridiculous. Stars grants time banks and everyone should be allowed to potentially use them to full extent in every game he plays, no matter what the reason is. If they think this takes too long for whatever reason, the obvious solution is to reduce/alter the time bank structure.
Hope this goes well for you.

i don't think it's really fair to attack the OP personally. ban him and take his money? wtf? i mean christ they mentioned 3 tourneys. it is still an issue though.

Play more tables so u don't get bored when someone takes a bit longer for whatever reasons at your current table. Wtf ofc OP regs like what, 30-40 tables, and then makes sure he times down every single hand?

PS HECANSNG

Love the spirit of what they're doing, don't really like how they're doing it. That email was way too vague. I agree they should just alter their time bank system to progressively shorten the clock for anyone using the max too often and raise it up for those acting quickly. I suppose reducing the amount of tables allowed on a case by case basis would work too. Don't threaten a ban for a style of play their VIP system encourages though, that is ridiculous. Do away with supernova elite and give everyone flat RB, problem solved. Can't have your cake and eat it too Stars.

This is either a really bad level (I hope) or you Sir, are an absolute buttmonkey.

Yes. I read this in their rules at least half a year ago. They state that they will take action against anyone slowing down the games unnecessarily, and one of the actions they might take is restrict the max number of tables.

So OP, while I understand it must be really frustrating to receive an email like this, especially if you're not much of a slow payer (I don't know so couldn't comment), you DID NOT in fact "play within their rules" and it's only natural they'd follow up on this with a mail.

If I were you, I'd send a mail back saying you don't think you take too much time in general and it happens only rarely. They'll probably keep an eye on it and if they agree with you, they'll let it go.

support op here on the most part. stalling can be an issue when people are intentionally taking a long time to be annoying. that isn't the case here

we could equally tell you to play more tables until you stop having to wait for other people, he is acting within the time given...