Click faster or drop some tables. Stars realize how important rec players are to them (and poker in general) long term.

Hate to phrase it like this, but NO ONE enjoys playing when people are slowing down the game every single hand. They're not jealous of your 6 black stars, they just want to play some poker and donk off stacks at a reasonable pace.

GJ on stars for siding w recs over regs on this particular issue. Needs to be some balance and the environment needs to be friendly and fun for recs/new players above all else. Everyone benefits from that.

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seems perfectly reasonable to me

OP is right.

maybe you should try to multi-table turbo fifties for SN/SNE. there is only 15sec timebank. It is not normal 90sec timebank, but only 15sec. It is easy to be timebanked very often. And we are humens not bots so we need some time for decisions and breaks, sometimes internet lags..etc.

but they complain only about some tourneys. so it is not problem, isnt it?

It's not reasonable. If you're mass multitabling you're bound to time out on a few hands here and there. Time bank also auto activates so it's not like you're intentionally time banking to stall the game. Plus, unless you're doing it intentionally and just using the max time on purpose to be a jerk, you really aren't doing anything wrong. All the fish that say "zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz" shouldn't be a valid source to decide whether you're doing something wrong.

One of their biggest promotions is their VIP levels which basically encourages you play many games at once, so for stars to encourage players to play more this way and to then threaten a player for trying to achieve these promotions is ludicrous.

Those one tabling dudes are the lifeblood of the poker site. People like the OP are ruining the atmosphere of the game and I commend Stars for doing this. I can't think of anything more annoying and bad for the games then when a recreational player realizes that a guy at his table is 20 tabling and cannot even make a standard preflop fold with using max time.

Now if you can 20 table and still play a reasonable speed, well fine, so be it. But you clearly play more tables than you should if you are taking this freaking long for every decision.

I do think Stars should consider lowering significantly the time allowed for a decision. Perhaps add just a little to the time bank and reduce by a good chunk the normal time for a decision so that it really is used as intended. As a way to think it tougher spots.

While it must be frustrating to get a (possible) error email like you did, this is a real issue in some games, thus the reason why Stars sends these out.

In the heads up sng world, people who don't like to be sat (often winners who don't want other winners to sit them) try to do this, and this is why Stars has taken such a hard line on it. Most HUSNG players actually commend them for this, as it's really poor and weak to sit in a lobby then to stall when someone you don't want to play you sits you.

All I can say OP (and the others who are outraged) is to just email back and explain that you think there has been a mistake. If 200 people stall and they send out 201 emails, you're just unlucky to be the falsely accused person. On the bright side, I'm sure they can fix this if you email them and explain it is a mistake.

OP, do you use Table Ninja or similar to auto time bank/never sit out?

THIS

If you are really playing really slow and taking an eternity to act due to over-multi-tabling, they have every right to ask you to stop doing this.

I hate playing with people who take a million years to act on every street, just because they're multi-tabling, watching porn, or falling asleep in between every hand.

If you are being falsely accused, then ignore everything I just wrote.

This is simply a matter of OP being either

A.) an incredibly slow player who has become notorious for consistently timing out on every decision throughout his sessions.

Or

B.) having been turned in by some dbag who complained because of a few isolated instances that occurred during his/her particular session.

There is no way to gauge an opinion on which of these is the case unless you regularly play in OPs games.

A.) stars response is warranted in every way

B.) stars is wayyy out of line and should take a long look at how they respond to such complaints especially under circumstances involving SNE players.

Simple as that if you ask me.

This.

If somebody stalled every hand in a live game the other players would soon be pissed and its the same for some online players. It can be particularly annoying for players in certain situations (certain stack sizes, points in the tourney).

I agree with the general approach stars is taking to the extent they are telling systematic timebankers to sharpen up or else. otoh in this particular case it seems unreasonable to call out OP on just 3 tourneys when hes playing 220 a day. Stars should look at the proportion of time the player is stalling overall.

Playing a high number of tables that leads to you timebanking frequently isnt stalling. The main problem here is the person writing the email has no idea what he's talking about. Stalling is specific tactic not a byproduct of playing too many tables. He also engages in ridiculous hyperbole when he says . It's almost as if he just took what the complainer claimed as gospel wo checking. Having someone be this clueless and dishonest coming from a position of power and authority is unprofessional at a minimum.
God no. This would lead to how good you are sending emails about opponents and having friends do the same become a part of what affects your winrate. It's much better to have an arbitrary algorithm applied to everyone equally than have someone that doesnt quite get it arbitrarily make decisions case by case. Recs who whine about regs taking a lot of time also arent objective and dont mind having the extra time bank for themselves when they get distracted by the TV, phone, bathroom, etc.

I agree that tables full of regs timebanking every hand are bad for the games but there are ways this can be fixed by creating rules that are equally applied to all.

Rec players also timebank alot in certain spots, it's not really fair to allow them to max timebank and never let regs do it. Some fish I've played h/u have taken like 5 seconds for every PF decision and even longer for postflop decisions. I never thought you could report someone for this, it's not like they're breaking rules.

I'm curious. Can Stars arbitrarily limit number of tables for certain players under their current regulations?

i'm sure most players know that timing out can actually be a stragegic component, let's say in a sattelitte where they all do it, or maybe when you are a huge dog and want to control when the next blind increase hits and whom it will hit. maybe you want to send someone on a TILT with it. maybe OP was busy with something else, preparing food, eating or whatever. as long as the rules do not explicitly state anything against that behaviour, i guess OP is right. they should have had a look at the rake he paid.

I am one of the 1 table zzzzzzzzz rec players mentioned itt.

I love that email! You seem to have no ****ing idea how annoying your behaviour is for people like me.

Play less tables if you can't act within reasonable time! What gives you the right to ruin my experience? Do you even care about that?

Lol making food and taking a piss while timebanking.
Special kind of ahole srsly. Wait for a pause (@ donkaments, sngs no pause obv), sit out or use a bottle for pissing.

I myself sent a letter to stars about this issue a couple of months ago.
5 tables left at a solid tourney and one guy stalled every decision to the max.
It was a turbo, our table losed a significant edge against other tables with this circus.

Srsly if you make food while timebanking you deserve to get banned.

they should change the rules then. op is acting within the rules set by the terms and conditions imo.

Im guessing you hate people playing "bingo" poker too. Would you like us to stop that as well?

What's a "reasonable" time and how is it measured over the course of an entire game.

You have to realize that with the way Stars' bonus structure is set up, maxing out the number of tables you play at SNGs gives the best hourl and people will act accordingly. Stars penalizing masstablers for playing within the rules is absurd. Demand they set a table cap or reduce time to think or change the bonus structure.

Also your zzzzzzzz text does nothing to speed regs up and if anything makes them take longer while they check the rest of the chat and/or mark you as x player type. So do yourself and the rest of the table a favor and just keep it to yourself and spend that time instead letting Stars now that the rules and structure they have in place are creating an ecosystem that is leading to an unenjoyable playing experience.

What is bingo poker?

bingo poker can be stopped only by educating the fishes imo - LOL

Not sure myself Bob but judging from when it's referenced it seems to be any line that's not limping pre and checking down post.

Well done stars

Ok. Well I don't care how somebody plays, as long as they play. Stalling every hand isn't playing imo and is keeping others from playing too.

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