Thread derailing about european v american views on gun control, etc from EPT Berlin robbery

[past_pluto]

Yeah b/c locking ppl in jail is the job of every citizen. So tell me, why didn't your euro buddies all pile in and stop that robbery rather than waiting on the police?

[past_pluto]

Oh wait, they were all unarmed and defenseless.

[Thijs908]

Originally Posted by past_pluto

Yeah b/c locking ppl in jail is the job of every citizen. So tell me, why didn't your euro buddies all pile in and stop that robbery rather than waiting on the police?

not really sure what you're saying but read again please

[past_pluto]

You are ignorant to American politics then. Research how things really work here. Hint: follow the money.

[spanktehbadwookie]

who authorized the tarding up of tihs epic thread!

[Louis Cyphre]

Originally Posted by kommmaklar

damn, why didnt i place a bet on this thread derailing to a weapon law discussion. would of been easy money.

I am actually surprised it took NVG this long to go full retard.

[Thijs908]

Originally Posted by past_pluto

Oh wait, they were all unarmed and defenseless.

Ok, got it now, might wanna put it in one post next time,

anyway, it is the job of society to grant safety to citizens, in this case the job of the Hotel. If civilians all would feel AND take matter to their own hands it's just plain wrong.

Instead of spending money on weapons you should pay more taxes to improve law enforcement, anyway that's just how I see it I'm sure many people agree with me

[Spurious]

Originally Posted by HappyOD

Actually, if you decrease the number of people capable of defending themselves, you increase the chances the defenseless will be slaughtered.

Sources: 6 million European Jews, 20 million Russian civilians, 400,000 Darfurians, 2 million Cambodians, 1 million Rawandans, etc, etc, ad nauseum.

I dont even know what to say. How retarded are you?

[past_pluto]

How could the hotel provide better safety for their patrons?

[HappyOD]

Originally Posted by poporella

You are wrong, this happened cause at least in Germany unauthorized people were armed and took over power + people wanated it cause they believed it will bring progression. Jews at these times were hated everywhere in europe...+ hated in history like forever...jews were victims of dogmatic thinking in history and even today.

Dude, the government disarmed the Jews. Quoting wikipedia:

On November 11, 1938, the Minister of the Interior, Wilhelm Frick, passed Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons. This regulation effectively deprived all Jews of the right to possess firearms or other weapons.

And it's alway the government that the naive and dangerous peace activists rely upon to disarm the citizens. Sometimes the government is benign, and the disarmed citizens are only preyed upon by criminals, and sometimes the government is murderous, and the disarmed citizens are killed by the hundreds of thousands.

[Thijs908]

Originally Posted by past_pluto

How could the hotel provide better safety for their patrons?

police can have guns, civilians can't period

Police force in Europe can also have guns you know?
The discussion is about civilians having guns

[past_pluto]

Originally Posted by Thijs908

Instead of spending money on weapons you should pay more taxes to improve law enforcement, anyway that's just how I see it I'm sure many people agree with me

Goddamn you are stupid. You have any clue about USA other than some BS you saw in Euroland? You have any idea why we have a drug war? Like I said before follow the money.

[poporella]

Originally Posted by HappyOD

Dude, the government disarmed the Jews. Quoting wikipedia:

On November 11, 1938, the Minister of the Interior, Wilhelm Frick, passed Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons. This regulation effectively deprived all Jews of the right to possess firearms or other weapons.

And it's alway the government that the naive and dangerous peace activists rely upon to disarm the citizens. Sometimes the government is benign, and the disarmed citizens are only preyed upon by criminals, and sometimes the government is murderous, and the disarmed citizens are killed by the hundreds of thousands.

yeah but you forget the government was unauthorized.
+ You forget if government becomes unauthorized power, it will find a way to unarm citizens anyway through spreading lies or gore..

I mean Ppl get so manipulated in America by the media/ the administration, they even was made to believe Iraq had mass destruction weapons as a time in Europe we all knew that it was not a fact and USA was misleading his citizenz on purpose to justify intervention..

I mean if it is so easy to establish a dogma in the US... what do you think your private armory will help.. nothing cause you will be made to believe whats not in your interest anyway... same happened in Nazi Germany.

[past_pluto]

Originally Posted by Thijs908

police can have guns, civilians can't period

Police force in Europe can also have guns you know?
The discussion is about civilians having guns

In Euroland when someone invades your home, armed or not, you have the right to lay down and take it in the ass while praying the invaders choose not to kill you on their way out. In USA when someone invades your home you have the right to go the euro way or to use lethal force to protect yourself. I'd rather have the option than to not have it at all.

[HappyOD]

Originally Posted by Spurious

I dont even know what to say. How retarded are you?

Not retarded enough to degenerate into a name calling hissy fit. I am simply pointing out to you the millions of defenseless people slaughterd by governments, rebels and criminals who had guns. All the victims were represented by naive and dangerous peace activists including Neville Chamberlain, Norman Mailer and others who continued to live in peace and prosperity, receiving accolades from their peers, despite their failure to protect the innocent. It always seems to work out that way.