Sure is a good thing that guns are illegal in Europe.

Nothing like this can happen with proper gun laws... Oh wait

Nevermind

240k lost is always better than dead players and casino employees.

"Sure is a good thing that guns are illegal in Europe.

Nothing like this can happen with proper gun laws... Oh wait
I'm an idiot and am hurting my argument.

Nevermind"

Picking up on even the most obvious irony isn't your strong suit is it?

American detected for implying Europe = Germany. Guns are perfectly legal in many EU countries.

And with all those first hand displays of humanity, you still ended up in the army........

Yeah, having security workers not always equipped with lethal weapons is a brag in my book.

BTW the US has like 1% of the population in jail while in Europe it's more like 1/1000.

lol Landofthefreeaments.

This Thread and the discussion about guns made me think that americans are idiots, but then i realized its NVG, and it has nothing to do with the nationality of the posters...

This is exactly what they do wrong in some countries like the U.S. .. Once you start the shooting, it is never going to end. The security guy shoots one robber, the other robbers start shooting at the security, risking the lifes of innocent people in the building..

In the U.S. the murder rate (so non-security/police related killings) is like 10 times higher as in a country as Germany.. People shoot way faster.. You would think criminals are more scared to commit a crime in the U.S.A.?? Wrong too, the crime rate is higher in the U.S. as in Germany and basically every other country with the same kind of crime policy.. It's NOT a good way of handling crime..

No, if they know the guards are armed-it's a bigger deterrent to think they can get away with it in the first place. Not to mention that their attitude gets real ****ty when the security guard starts putting holes in them.

LOL

Sure, we all love the brave security force guy, but on the armed robbery forum site, the hero is the accomplice that returns with the pole to help free his partner, when a lot of armed robbers would've just said, forget that guy.

I thought exactly the same thing, but on the other hand he could inform the police then about the other robbers.
But well it was brave too to help your buddy in a situation like this. He should get a award and some money for that IMO.

its not, its giving everyone a second chance, thats pretty ethical.

THe tactics US goes for just provokes more violence wether its related to internal affairs or interstate affairs...Alquaidas resistance/ terroracts is not coming out of air..

you stop a murderer because the life/person can not be replaced like money can.

Yeah exactly. I can't see the point in giving people stupidly long sentences: it doesn't act as any better deterrent and just means people who could well change as they get older don't get any chance to. I think in this regard we have a far more sensible system here. These guys would be getting a sentence > 8 years here in the UK anyway; possibly significantly more because of the masks, weapons and amount of cash involved - is this not enough? What's the point in giving them 1948208908768357 years like they do in the USA?

Juk

and another point to go with the above: giving stupidly long sentences for armed robberies means that the perpetrators are far more likely to try to shoot their way out and get away "at any cost". What's the point in giving up if you know your gonna get locked up for just as long as if you kill loads of people trying to get away? Stupidly long sentences just create desperate individuals with nothing to lose...

Juk

At this point I must recommend Fassbinder's "Messer in der Kopf" for a viewpoint on the operations of Polizei Deutsches.

Do Point is that guys doing armed robbery, sexuell crimes and murderer mostly
are not able to a social behavior again. In my youth i have been for a couple
of years in a criminal scene and believe me there have been guys you would wish they never come out of jail.

The problems why they are like they are have nothing to do with the lenght
of the punishment but you make the decision quit easier for a group of criminals with to less sentences.
(and yeah i know my english is terrible)

Euro cops are mostly involved in the aftermath/coverup. US cops usually arrive in time to unload their chambers. It's a subtle but decisive difference.

If that one brave security guard had a pistol, there would have been no escape. If all the security guards had guns, there would have been no robbery. In Texas, those fellows would have never tried it or never escaped, never lived to tell of it. If you have a big ol' sign that says, "Rob me. I'm unarmed", you are going to get robbed.

Johnny Hughes in this thread, at last!

lol at Texas for their view on things.

or a lot of funerals. I don't know about you but I prefer my poker tournaments without gun fights.

Johnny! Is that you? OMG! You know that Texas is the Lone Star State? It's true. They say tejas has hoes and foes. No. Wait... three strands of men but t2o of thems cut, NO! dammit wait ... broom sweeps uncle got rolled in his grave ... man darn my preacher said it was ok but I don't know ... but anyway keep those history lessons coming they are sure something.

lol at the "if they had a gun" crew. The percentage of cases solved concerning armed robbery (not a granny's handbag but bank robbery and these sort of things) is almost at 100% in Western Europe. Just let them escape and no one gets harmed, they get catched sooner or later anyways.