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06-02-2014 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
Most maids who have been at a casino long enough know the bypass safe codes.
How do you know this?

And once again, of the people reporting something stolen from their room, how many were using the safe?
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06-02-2014 , 03:45 PM
At the Wyndham Grand Desert in Vegas our safe wouldn't open and the maintenance guy had to call the safe company and get a one time use reset code, specific to the safe. He also had to give his id on the phone, likely so it could be logged. I'm not sure how many safes are like that, but it was nice that not just anyone could unlock it.
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06-02-2014 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Monorail
Not sure how much water this holds...there's cameras throughout the casino floor and in the elevators. Sure, there's SOME room for plausible deniability if you're just caught taking the elevator and getting off on the same floor with a hooker but...not that much.

Really doubt it's for patron-protection reasons...hotels don't give a F about you. More likely it's for hotel liability reasons...not sure exactly how / why, but there's no way it's driven by patron privacy concerns rather than their own bottom line.
Did anyone read the article for the security expert?

They don't monitor those areas because of liability issues. All of a sudden the hotels are exposing themselves to the cost of monitoring thousands of square feet and also how to respond appropriately.

What happens if there is an assault in progress and it takes them 10 minutes to respond even though it was on the screen and being recorded? They could easily be held accountable.

Little PR mishaps are a small cost to pay. Nobody really cares.
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06-02-2014 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Takedown
At the Wyndham Grand Desert in Vegas our safe wouldn't open and the maintenance guy had to call the safe company and get a one time use reset code, specific to the safe. He also had to give his id on the phone, likely so it could be logged. I'm not sure how many safes are like that, but it was nice that not just anyone could unlock it.
Meanwhile when my safe wouldn't open when I stayed at the Rio during the wsop a few years ago the Rio sent a guy from security up to my room who asked for my id then opened the safe with a code.


Also I think it's laughable that the entire parking lot at the Rio isn't under video surveillance. I could be wrong but when I pulled up to the convention side in a cab yesterday with this thread in mind I was looking around for cameras and didn't see any. Seems like a bad idea not to have cameras in view to deter theft like my local grocery store has in its parking lot.
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06-02-2014 , 05:11 PM
I'm currently staying at the rio and last night when I went to open my door with the key I noticed the door appeared to be shut all the way but the latch was not fully "clicked" in. The door was accessible by the force of my key missing the slot causing the latch to push away. I'm just glad my roommate was already in the room also had all my cash on me.

Kind of a scary thought that someone can follow you at check in, hang around the hallway acting like they are going to their "own" room, wait till the victims leave the room (the last place a tourist wants to stay when they get in town is their room) then rob them without even having a duplicate card key made. This method would leave zero evidence of an entry to the room in the security database that all hotels have.

They added security at the elevator entry to the towers but I think that's easily bypassed by a determined thief. Also, these maids try to get into your room even w the 'do not disturbed sign' wtf is up with that?
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06-02-2014 , 05:48 PM
If I do have valuables I want to leave in the room like ipad or ca$h stacks I usually find a hiding place in the room where a maid or theif would not look for/find it. Pretty easy to stash stuff out of sight. They always go for the luggage. You guys hide stuff in the room?

I had to hide stuff in places like Costa Rica because they don't have safes. Money belts are rad for smaller amounts.
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06-02-2014 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by fatkid
If I do have valuables I want to leave in the room like ipad or ca$h stacks I usually find a hiding place in the room where a maid or theif would not look for/find it. Pretty easy to stash stuff out of sight. They always go for the luggage. You guys hide stuff in the room?

I had to hide stuff in places like Costa Rica because they don't have safes. Money belts are rad for smaller amounts.
Every hotel I have ever stayed at in Costa Rica has had a room safe. (I have never stayed at that poker/hooker mecca called the Hotel Del Rey, but I expect even they offer at least a safe behind the front desk for guests.)

Anyway, you are delusional if you think a thief can't toss an entire hotel room in under two minutes.
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06-02-2014 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
Most maids who have been at a casino long enough know the bypass safe codes.
That is complete and utter nonsense. "Most maids", really ?

You really claim that "most maids" will steal, know codes, and are just waiting for an opportunity to risk their jobs and benefits for an attempt to make an occasional score ? Really, "most maids" ?
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06-02-2014 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MSchu18
I happened to be in the structure because I like the shade...



latino, about 30'ish, short hair slightly disheveled wear a nice shirt... but he looked coherent as I rolled up on his arse.



I guess he could have been impaired... to be honest, he looked more mentally challenged or in shock than falling down drunk. Not handicapped mind you, just really stupid... which is why I just turned away and got in car and drive off after trying to see how squirrelly he was planning to get. he could have been just playing it off, I've seen that before when a thief gets caught in the act they begin acting impaired or drunk because they are literally in shock and adrenalized.

FWIW... don't leave ANYTHING in your vehicle.
Had he been drunk, he probably wouldn't have noticed you taking your smart phone out and snapping a pic of him. If he wasn't drunk, then you would know for sure when he takes off running or tries to hide his face.
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06-02-2014 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyQuixote
That is complete and utter nonsense. "Most maids", really ?

You really claim that "most maids" will steal, know codes, and are just waiting for an opportunity to risk their jobs and benefits for an attempt to make an occasional score ? Really, "most maids" ?
That isn't what he claimed at all.
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06-02-2014 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyQuixote
Every hotel I have ever stayed at in Costa Rica has had a room safe. (I have never stayed at that poker/hooker mecca called the Hotel Del Rey, but I expect even they offer at least a safe behind the front desk for guests.)

Anyway, you are delusional if you think a thief can't toss an entire hotel room in under two minutes.
I hear you boy. I was there for 6 weeks and stayed in hostels and other off beat beach places. No safes. Hiding stuff/money belt is the only game I played son. We ain't all ballers like Sir Donkey.
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06-02-2014 , 11:26 PM
Read this thread and had to weigh in. Am a frequent visitor to LV, have a few very close friends living there. I choose to stay at the Rio over ALL other Caesars properties simply because of its proximity to I-15 (and that it's off the Strip). I've stayed there dozens of times. I've also stayed at many hotels in LV since I began to gamble 25+ years ago.

1st off, every suite at the Rio has an in-room safe. No matter the hurry after flopping your bags in your suite, investing 2 minutes to activate the safe is criminal on your part...ESPECIALLY if you're carrying that kind of glimmer. I get paranoid if I leave anything over $500 out for goodness sake.

In all my years staying there, I've never had one red cent stolen, not one pill, toiletry, personal item, jewelry, etc. Sad to say but that's not the case with 1 of the properties on Trop & LVB I stayed in (and won't again). Wasn't a major theft, but a creepy violation of trust nonetheless.

I currently work in LE in a major state. There's NO excuse leaving those kinds of valuables laying about. I'll at least grant you in this day and age, and with online poker legal in NV, it makes total sense having your laptop there and at the ready. Honest mistake not contemplating its security before leaving the suite. I usually don't travel with mine while travelling for leisure.

Maybe too many people were influenced by movies / TV by shows like 'Las Vegas', 'Snake Eyes' and the like where hi-tech security / surveillance played major roles in plotline, but as most have written this isn't reality at all too many properties. Large events where any foreign attendance is commonplace all always targets for the hustlers and thieves. Sorry for your loss but you showed a lack of maturity and safeguarding your valuables and holding others to 100% blame is silly.
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06-04-2014 , 03:22 AM
FWIW, I am at Bally's right now (junior suite), and the in-room safe is by all indications free.
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06-04-2014 , 11:07 PM
I don't get this thread. Why not just bring your own safe?
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06-05-2014 , 03:59 AM
Never had to pay to use an in room safe in LV.

Never left money lying around when I am not in the room, apart form loose coins.

Never left anything on display in my car when it is parked anywhere.

None of these things are anything other than common sense surely?
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06-05-2014 , 06:43 AM
Still no announcement from anyone official about this? Guess they're just going to sweep it under the rug and allow the criminals to continue operating...
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06-05-2014 , 07:40 AM
Left 8k out in full view in my hotel in London once.
Realised as I was having lunch, felt sick, finished fast and ran back.
Housekeeping had been and had actually tidied it in one pile, all was there.
Unreal run good!
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06-05-2014 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
FWIW, I am at Bally's right now (junior suite), and the in-room safe is by all indications free.
I'm guessing so many people complained that they stopped charging for it. Or something along those lines.
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06-08-2014 , 03:46 PM
Ross Bybee just reported a theft from his room on his Facebook and Twitter.
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06-08-2014 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
Ross Bybee just reported a theft from his room on his Facebook and Twitter.
honest question, i'm sure addressed though i did not see:

Are there no safes in these rooms?
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06-08-2014 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JayJune
honest question, i'm sure addressed though i did not see:

Are there no safes in these rooms?
Yes, but a dose of common sense is not included with a reservation.
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06-08-2014 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
Ross Bybee just reported a theft from his room on his Facebook and Twitter.
In before Jack Effel tweets he is going to look into it
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06-08-2014 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by j20s
Yes, but a dose of common sense is not included with a reservation.
Why are you responding to all these threads like this? Are you pro-crime at the Rio or something?

He said they took his laptop and phone. Most laptops don't fit in the safe, and even if it did, do you lock up your laptop every time you leave your hotel room?
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06-08-2014 , 09:41 PM
Also wanted to write in this thread-A friend mentioned to me he heard a podcast with a wsop employee who claimed that the safes are secure, and that employees cannot put in a code that will open them. I know for a fact this isn't true, because last year when I stayed at the Rio the safe was locked when I checked in. We called the front desk and they sent an employee up who opened the safe in a few seconds.
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06-08-2014 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by schundler
Why are you responding to all these threads like this? Are you pro-crime at the Rio or something?

He said they took his laptop and phone. Most laptops don't fit in the safe, and even if it did, do you lock up your laptop every time you leave your hotel room?
I have a $12 steel cable laptop lock that wraps around a hotel desk drawer handle and the end fits in the locking tab on my laptop. Not effective against a determined thief but you'd have to break the desk or laptop.
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