This. Ted hasn't cheated or scammed anybody, he is just a man trying to make an honest living. What happened to young people actually having respect for olds?

Actually, no. General consensus about him among regs isn't anything near what you claim. Its quite the opposite. I'm sure some random hobbyist who sits down and wins a few pots might think that, a bunch of 22 year old internet skid marks would happily agree but its not true.

Do you even realize what it takes, skill wise, to make a living at 40/80 or 80/160 in the year 2016? I'll give you a hint: in the post poker boom, post stakes-inflation poker era, if you're earning a living at that level, you're a damn good player. Any recreational ******* can sit down at that level with paycheck money and win a bit with some trivial sample size and conclude it's "easy" but please, go play 80/160 for 3 years and get back to me.


And PS, just why do you think he is regularly staked to play north? Do you think the people who are putting him in those games have insight worse than yours, Mr Good Job and A Few Kids And Sometimes I Play At That Level On My Annual Vacation Trip to Borgata?

Here's a bit of poker-wisdom that you peach-fuzz internet pantloads might not understand, but it is nevertheless true: as you age, you tend to lose recklessness and wanton aggression. You lose your stomach for huge swings. Its fine to drop six figures in a sesh when you're 22 because you can always go back to college and earn a degree or sell cars for a living if things don't go as planned but it's different when you're 50.

The hero of Rounders wasn't Mikey. It was was Knish.
Watching time grind up and spit out so many internet-boom heroes was validating. Listening to those same e-turds criticize a guy like Ted- who is still making a good living at it today, even if he isn't playing ten billion/twenty billion with some drooling whale- is just as annoying as their arrival in the first place.

Hit and running 20/40 and living off of free ketchup packets and milk at 50 sounds like a great life.

Live pros love to attribute a lower wr and such to tougher games (and it is 100% that games are tougher), but they also conveniently forget to reflect that maybe, FINALLY variance might just be evening itself out

He's not playing at the cheeseburger levels, his track record is long enough to not simply wave off his success to variance.

He's still a winner at levels that, over the long run, would absolutely grind up 99.9% of the members of this site. The 0.1% who could hang certainly aren't taking pot-shots at the guy for making a living playing poker. That would be almost entirely hobbyist donks and/or people who couldn't even buy in to one of his regular games without having their whole roll on the table.

(to be clear, I am not him nor am I particularly closely acquainted with him)

^ a lot of pooping, particularly in the pants, being referenced here

Hi Ted!

Yeah, we should respect a broke degen gambler that plays poker for a living and used to make six figure+ prop bets because playing cards was not enough 'gamble' for him. Got it.

I will be sure to tell my kids about it as a success story to life. You people need to get a clue.

I was around before the poker boom and have watched many so-called 'pros' come and go. There are very very few of these people left that are still in descent+ financial shape. So no, I don't consider myself 'young' as I have been playing poker for 20+ years now and am in my mid 40's. You guys keep living the good life and dreaming the dream about playing poker as a full time job for 30+ years. See where that gets you financially, mentally, and physically.

**BTW - I never ever said he cheated or scammed anyone, just that he has some questionable morals around poker. Hanging with Eli and Men is such a good start .

I'd have more respect for the broke degen gambler than the condescending douchebag attacking people he doesn't know on an internet forum. Find someone else to teach your kids some manners.

So what would be the minimum amount needed in his bank account for him to deserve respect? And btw just because you respect someone doesn't mean you idolize them or want your kids to live a lifestyle similar to them. It just means you don't follow them around the borgata and talk trash about them on the Internet

You just moved the goalposts.

First it went from "Ted Forrest really isn't that good of a poker player, he's a dog against any decent field" to now, some moralizing sanctimony about the general lifestyle lived by long term professional gamblers/poker players.

Nobody gives a **** what your opinions are on the latter. If poker players want to sit around and get fat until they die from a Lack-Of-Sunlight Vitamin D deficiency/Cheating Stripper Wife/Comp Buffet stress-clogged artery combo heart attack at the age of 58, that's their business and nobody should care.

I'm simply pointing out that your assertions on Ted Forrest's poker skills are totally factually incorrect. He's scary good. I'm actually doing him a disservice by making these posts. If I wanted to do him a favor, I'd agree with you.

Yes yes yes internet gurus. Ted Forrest is an AWFUL poker player. His worst games are stud games. Every time you see Ted, you should hear ringing cash registers. If you're heading to Vegas to make your fortune as the next up-and-coming internet hero who's really cracked the poker nut, your first stop should be playing mixed games with Ted. He's basically a loss-leader/player ambassador they keep around for old times sake. The guy is a TERRIBLE card player. That's free money sitting there. Go take it away from him!

You ppl?

I played 75/150 08 at last year's wsop with him 2x. Creepy af. He was in the 4 seat and would practically dive across the table to " get a read" on the 6&7 seats. A couple of well respected Borgata regs lolled him coming and going. He skipped blinds and hoarded waters. This is known. He generally had a look about him like he was suffering from poker PTSD.

Ted doesn't mind playing oop. I saw him open limp Utg+1 75/150 O8 with 101025

Double suited of course

He has a bad ankle and gets two waters to "ice it". At least that is what he was doing at my table

Says the hypocrite guy calling random people on the internet douchebags....

Lol at people thing TF is anything but a legend.

What would you expect a normal working person at his age to have? I'd say a few hundred grand in investments and retirement funds (should be more like 500K to 1.5 mil depending on lifestyle, but I know the 2p2ers would go crazy if I said a 1mil), and easily a yearly 6 figure income. If someone worked in the same field for 30 to 40 years and was supposedly one of the better people at his job, this would be no brainer numbers based on the areas he lives and works in.

And again, I have never followed anyone around and what I have said about him is not trash. It is closer to fact. Someone asked what he was like and I said to follow him around for a day at the Borgata if you want proof for yourself, that was it. I have actually played with him and have real life experiences to comment from, how about the rest of the people here?

Was. I wouldn't say that now, but that is what the debate is all about I guess.

Exactly. This is all that I have been saying. For all you naysayers, pretty much anyone that has had real life experience playing with him over the last few years, all say the same thing. Which is exactly what I have been saying. Just ask most Borgata regulars. For those that have no direct experience on the matter, you really need to settle down some and stop giving unwarranted opinions. You really have no idea. Stop getting so mad and upset at those that can comment from actual play and not from a soap box.

LOL at the hoarding waters too.

Maybe that time, but he is very well known for just hoarding waters period. Like, he will get 4 and 5 waters at a table and then stumble and bumble his way to another table with all of the waters in hand. It's one of the running jokes at the Borgata about him.

Doesn't make him a bad guy. does make it a little strange though.....

TF is a ****ing legend. no doubt about that. His name will go down in the history books as one of the poker greats. Something a few people ever accomplish in there lives. Which in of itself is a great accomplishment.

but he paid DEARLY for it

Yeah, didn't the guy play 10,000/20,000 three handed limit hold'em with his own money? (Against Beal and Reese who was playing with pooled funds)

FYP

He bought in with his entire roll from what I've read. Around 2 million bucks.

Not trying to discredit the guy for being a ****ing sicko, but just like any degen will buy in with their entire paycheck, so did Ted, he just happened to be a great poker player vs the competition willing to risk it all. Also, people forget that overtime people go nuts...I have seen some BRILLIANT people completely lose their mind mid-life. I have a friend who was a PhD in neuroscience and still works as a server at 35, because he lost his ****ing mind studying for 15 years straight.

I do respect Ted though and he is a legend in Poker.

I've read this water hoarding thing several times now, why does he hoard water while at the casino? Aren't they free anytime you ask a waitress, is the Borgata running low on water or something? Hah.