We really need to send some players to talk to those MPs on next Friday.
Our request is very reasonable.

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Losing hand: Changes to online gambling laws to force poker players out
by Nick Whigham, http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/


ARED’S job earns him tens of thousands of dollars per year. But thanks to a government crackdown, that job is about to vanish.


Like many others in the fulltime poker community, Jared (who wanted his last name withheld) lives in a rural area and doesn’t have access to a casino and he is worried about the future.

“I’ve been out of the workforce for four to five years now. What do people put on their resumé?

“A lot of people are going to be left without any other choice but to re-enter the job market. It’s going to be like starting your life again.”

Without any solid working background, Jared in unsure about what sort of employment he will be able to find.


A GAME OF SKILL ... AND STIGMA

Poker advocates are calling on the government to change the legislation to make it easier for player-to-player skill-based games, such as poker, to remain in the market.

For serious fulltime players this is not a game of chance. They use a raft of tactics, techniques and mathematical reasoning to give them the best chance of winning.

This is the dumb politician who asked to Ban online poker in Australia.

Nick Xenophon
Nick Xenophon Team, Senator for South Australia.

lloveps,

You are adding very little value to this thread. Please consider your posting decisions more carefully.

I don't bet anywhere near enough to make it worthwhile going down the overseas address route, especially when there's so many local books, but it'll be a shame if we lose Pinnacle.

I'd be fascinated to see what happens if the second part ever gets up though - is there anywhere else in the world that enforces the same kind of provisions?

it is 100% worth going through the loops..

I recommend that the newcomers to the thread go back on the pages and catch up on what's already been done on the cause. Channel the new energy on the same boat.


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yeah its good to bring some fire, but more calculated posts with one batch per post would be ideal

@Josem
I cant not find any value of your posts at all.

Can't not find?

@bazooka87
Even you can find a typo.
Ok, I cant find any value of his and your trash posts.

cant find? *can't

this could go on all day. (just kidding)

lloveps you seem to have come very very late to the party. About a month or 2 ago we were trying to do all the things you are talking about now. Joeydel arranged meetings with ministers and senators, tweets were sent daily targeting other members of parliament to try swing them to our side but the topic has now been dealt with in the senate. It's too late to do the things you are suggesting. You need to stop posting for 30 minutes, go back and read the last 200 posts for yourself and then you will understand why people are saying you should stop with all these silly posts you are making.

However, Joeydel also has plans to try and get poker legalised in future, when that happens, he would no doubt encourage someone with your enthusiasm to put in the this sort of effort. But that is for then, not now. Don't make another post in this thread until you have gone back and read everything that has been posted here in the last 3-6 months.

IS stars down ? just got disconnected while playing, and the client wont connect now, and my internet connection is fine ; (

i cant connect either

Its down for everyone...dont worry!

PokerStars‏Verified account
@PokerStars

We're currently experiencing technical issues with the poker client but hope to rectify these asap. Thanks for your patience.

Thanks to all involved for their efforts.

In no way am I degrading the people or the efforts that contributed to the attempt of persuading the powers at be with the following statements.

From the Action plans i saw you guys put in place that attempted to overwhelm a set of different targets with "bot" like spam to the meetings and interviews with people that potentially don't have your best interests at hand, don't understand the concepts of the conversation or don't even hold any persuasive power amongst many of their colleague.

You don't get what you want by asking, unless the person you are asking wants the same thing.

There are many strategies you can adopt in leveraging the advantage to get to the end-zone. The lock-out laws in QLD are a simple example, where people overcame the silliness that was displayed by the powers at be. This wasn't achieved through spam or conversation, it was an extremely well orchestrated plan that ultimately flipped the governing bodies on their heads changing the direction back to its normality within the year, i had the pleasure of being able to discuss some of the tactics with a group of smart people that knew what had to be done. Hopefully we can get poker back on its right direction within a very suitable time frame.

Keep up the work and as i stated it doesn't matter if i didn't agree with the methods that were being implemented, we are all on the same team with the same objective and end game.

Sweet, I've updated this thread best I can on how the bill is going between houses and likely dates. As pontylad has said you're several months too late and your ideas are non-sensical (contacting the governor general) or just plain incorrect (Xenophon is behind all of this).

Hey guys,

Agree with a lot of sentiments spread recently. It is great to see such initiative but please try to keep it in line with what is happening.

Not much point freaking everyone out by making up doom dates that aren't real. There is stuff going on at the moment but it is a long process.

I apologise for not keeping everyone as informed but I have had a few personal changes happening and there really isn't too much to report at the moment.

The mood from Fifield's office has shifted positively (very slowly). The Senators that voted for us are certainly still with us.

I know this period is frustrating as there isn't much that everyone can do.

Think of this period of the middle stage of the tournament. Try to keep in a positive mindset until we get to the pointy end and start lifting the action!

My wife (a filipina) and I have a joint visa debit account from NAB. Question is, can she play on Pokerstars - post ban - from the Philippines even though the deposit method is from an Australian bank? She has a registered address and everything in the Philippines. What do you guys think?

Yes, Austtalians will still be able to play on their accounts as long as they are living abroad and inform Stars of their new address. you will almost certainly not be able to deposit with an Australian credit card and I am very doubtful you will still be able to cash out to an Australian bank account.

Pokerstars will not stop offering services to Australians (or any other particular nationality). They will stop offering services within Australia, regardless of the nationality of the player.

Historically, Stars have erred on the side of caution so I doubt this would work. But you should definitely be proactive about this and email Stars to explain the situation so that you avoid some of the issues that have crept up in the past. For reference, see Danfiu who had his account banned (the decision was later reversed) simply for associating with someone Stars didn't want playing on their site.

We're ****ed. I just tried to withdrawal funds and received the following message
"A number of Direct Bank Transfers was not accepted by Australian banks, therefore we regret to inform you that we are no longer able to offer Direct Bank Transfer as a withdrawal option."

I tried to withdraw the other day and got an email from stars earlier tonight. I came on here to check if anyone else got the same. Extract from the email below.

"
We regret to inform you that the withdrawal you have requested recently via Direct Bank Transfer wasn't successfully processed by our payments provider as they have stopped supporting this payment method in your location.

This transactions has been rejected and the funds have been credited back to your Stars account balance. Please use alternate payment methods available to you via our cashier to initiate your withdrawal again.

We apologize for the inconvenience.

Regards,

Stars Payment Services"

I mean, I'm not saying I don't believe you, but really? That came from Stars?