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01-28-2015 , 05:39 PM
I wonder why a game this big didn't get "protection" by passing out some bucks to the local DA and Chief of Police to keep their goon squad away. Local asshats can be bought off for peanuts in many places. Maybe they didn't and this was why.
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01-28-2015 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TheCake
How does the 4th amendment not protect them. In Cal. It is not criminal until the host is taking a drop and becomes a bussiness.
Because the cops satisfied the 4th by obtaining a warrant.
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01-28-2015 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TouchOfEVil
did this really happen? It sounds so unreal managing not only to raid the wrong house(which in itself is awful but understandable) but managing to hit the ****ing crib with a flashbang? wow... that´s surreal.
They didn't raid the wrong house. The crib was in the living room. Suspect wasn't home at the time and was later arrested.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/07/us/geo...no-indictment/
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01-28-2015 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tswpoker1
RAND Paul 2016
FYP!
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01-28-2015 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by au4all
Democrat mayor, Democrat governor. What do you expect from the Party of Compassion?
How dare you speak of the democrat party in this manner. The republicans are the only evil ones!!
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01-28-2015 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dos
Dont hate the player, hate the game imo. If you know that laws exist that allow the police to legally rob you, you either
dont give them the chance by not playing/making necessary adjustments
or
try to change the law.
Cant hate on them for making as much money as they can, you d do the same thing, american dream, baby.
Really? Put your head back in the sand.

P.S. no i wouldn't do the same.
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01-28-2015 , 06:29 PM
Let me guess these guys were not recording there win/loss at cash at private high stakes games for taxes. Idiots. Who even plays home games anymore?
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01-28-2015 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rocketragz
How dare you speak of the democrat party in this manner. The republicans are the only evil ones!!
err Fairfax County doesn't have a mayor....also someone mentioned 8 grand earlier wouldn't it be closer to over 60 grand seized?

Didn't know about the 2k on hosting expenses....seems like the simple solution would be to charge under 2k to play. un-raked home games are legal in VA.
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01-28-2015 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by marke.
I know I'm probably going to get torn into for my being an Aussie and weighing in here. And believe me I definatly know our crop are not much better. Our country is currently run by an absolute drooling idiot, and our governments have always looked up to America as the big brother they never had...

But fair dinkum, every time I hear/read about another episode of the shenanigans of the government/powers that be over there I can't help but think.. Land of the Free... Really. Really?? That slogan really needs a change me thinks.
SWAT raids for a poker game are a bit lol. The bookie getting shot dead cos the highly trained SWAT guy bumped his left side is pretty alarming. But if the above story about the grenade into the baby's crib at the wrong house is true I'm ****in speechless...
The baby didn't die. The story was told on 48 hours...if you search you can find it on YouTube.
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01-28-2015 , 08:02 PM
and to be fair it wasn't a SWAT guy who killed the Doc, it was a regular detective who, probably in the process of jizzing his pants at the thought of getting to pull his gun, lost his balance and hit into the body of his cruiser...
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01-28-2015 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jawong2000
What are US laws on private home games? Is it even illegal?
If there is a rake - yes.
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01-28-2015 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by WateryBoil
nazi america becoming more like a dictatorship one year at a time.
Huh?
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01-29-2015 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by stockguy3205
They didn't raid the wrong house. The crib was in the living room. Suspect wasn't home at the time and was later arrested.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/07/us/geo...no-indictment/
If by "burned" they mean "in a medically induced coma from surgeries related to facial burns, a detached nose, brain injuries and a collapsed lung" and by "was not at the home at the time of the raid" they mean "did not actually live at the residence" then the article is pretty accurate.

Hut hut hut hut.
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01-29-2015 , 12:46 PM
Ironic this went down near DC, where in marble halls just miles away there are laws being written by lobbyists and then robo-signed by bought politicians to funnel billions to special interests in exchange for campaign donations and outright graft.
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01-29-2015 , 01:07 PM
they say there was 150k on the table, there was probably more like 250 000 but the police took 100k for themselve... it always work that way
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01-31-2015 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by chinagambler
Except leaving wouldn't help: American citizens have to pay American taxes no matter where they live.
yeah, that is one of the most draconian policies. there is the 100k semi-tax exemption and ex-patriation. but yeah, you are mostly kind of screwed.

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Originally Posted by Koko the munkey
Oh I didn't realize it was that simple. I'll start packing now.
its much easier than you would think if you are smart and motivated and care to align your core values with your actions. unless you have kids and a wife or something, but im generalizing to the average functionally affluent and independent 2p2r here.

just speaking from my own experiences but i was all about USA until i got out from black friday. then seeing it on the outside you learn what a brain washed trap it is.
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01-31-2015 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jawong2000
What are US laws on private home games? Is it even illegal?
Depends on what state it is on. It also often depends on whether the "house" is taking a rake or otherwise making a profit (outside of playing in the game).
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01-31-2015 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DaycareInferno
Either way, it's not really a very American philosophy historically. We're typically more "love it or kill it" types.
This is so American, man: either make something your god and cosmos and then worship it, or else kill it.
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02-03-2015 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TouchOfEVil
did this really happen? It sounds so unreal managing not only to raid the wrong house(which in itself is awful but understandable) but managing to hit the ****ing crib with a flashbang? wow... that´s surreal.
looking for the case now, guess it's the same as linked to in the other post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/t...flash-grenade/

https://www.change.org/p/habersham-c...illing-my-baby

basically, it's like police have some Rambo fetish. They use these flash bangs against citizens who have not committed or are suspected of committing violent crimes. I mean, if they were using flash bangs to raid the house of a serial killer that would be one thing. But many times they use these flash bangs against NON VIOLENT criminals or suspects for non violent crimes like drug dealing. Too much TV on the cops part, think they watch too much Scarface. Seriously, you go to a pot heads house to buy some weed, it's not like there are five guys with AK-47s patting you down...

Last edited by dgiharris; 02-03-2015 at 11:58 AM.
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02-18-2015 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by dgiharris
looking for the case now, guess it's the same as linked to in the other post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/t...flash-grenade/

https://www.change.org/p/habersham-c...illing-my-baby

basically, it's like police have some Rambo fetish. They use these flash bangs against citizens who have not committed or are suspected of committing violent crimes. I mean, if they were using flash bangs to raid the house of a serial killer that would be one thing. But many times they use these flash bangs against NON VIOLENT criminals or suspects for non violent crimes like drug dealing. Too much TV on the cops part, think they watch too much Scarface. Seriously, you go to a pot heads house to buy some weed, it's not like there are five guys with AK-47s patting you down...
There's a lot of issues at play here with the SWAT teams. First and foremost, it's the militarization of the police. There's a MASSIVE amount of money in the military and with private contractors for the military. The more weapons they can sell, the more money they make. They say that they're giving "military surplus" weapons to local police forces, but the truth is that they're being manufactured purely for police forces.

It's not just the weapons in police forces that are getting a military makeover. It's the human police officers that take on a military mentality as well.

Look at the youtube video that the Las Vegas police put out. They're proud of how much like the military they are:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNSvOHRdZqc

In 1981, there were 3,000 no-knock SWAT-style raids. In 2004, there were 50,000.

Combine the SWAT raids with the asset forfeiture laws and you have what goes on today. It's essentially armed robbery by law enforcement.

Guess what happens to all the money confiscated by police, DEA, SWAT teams, local police, etc? THEY KEEP IT!!! They put it in their back pocket and spend it on frivolous stuff. The DEA confiscates more than $4 Billion every year. They have so much money that they don't know how to spend it and there's no oversight on how the money's spent.

John Oliver did a funny bit on civil asset forfeiture:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEpZWGgJks

YOU HAVE TO CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO!!! In addition to being highly informative, it's really funny (and I'm not even a John Oliver fan).

btw - Poker players have had their money seized while traveling to tournaments. Police assume that if you have cash, you're a drug dealer. They take your money first and ask questions later.

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02-18-2015 , 01:48 AM
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There's a lot of issues at play here with the SWAT teams. First and foremost, it's the militarization of the police. There's a MASSIVE amount of money in the military and with private contractors for the military. The more weapons they can sell, the more money they make. They say that they're giving "military surplus" weapons to local police forces, but the truth is that they're being manufactured purely for police forces.

its just given away to the police at ridiculous prices. Government pays 400k for a MRAP and it gets sold to the police for 5k. I believe also government funding goes to SWAT teams, add what they take from drug raids and the SWAT team probably generates massive amounts of money for them. Then there is the whole other bunch of BS about if the police don't spend the money allocated to them, they lose it. I'm not against patrolmen having a rifle in their trunk, but during the Boston bombing manhunt they fired a ungodly amount of 5.56 in a residential neighborhood. Extremely poor discipline and poor marksmanship.


What's worse is the military was more responsible raiding houses in Iraq than the police are over here. Considering every Iraqi house was allowed an AK to defend themselves from bandits.

People assume these SWAT team guys are all well trained guys, maybe for big cities. A lot of these small town clowns are a joke. They're more of a danger to each other and civilians. Some police departments have once a year qualification on their firearms. Cops are notoriously poor marksmen.

Officer safety, policing isn't even the top 10 most dangerous jobs.

"lack of danger by showing that 2013 has had the “Lowest Level of Law Enforcement Fatalities in Six Decades” and the fewest officers killed by firearms since 1887."

The story about the baby being burned tells a lot. I guarantee they did ZERO surveillance on that house. Suspect wasn't even home, didn't know there was a baby. I even heard the city didn't have to pay for the little babies hospital bills.

One thing i agree with is we need special prosecutors dealing with police abuse. The system is corrupt and how the hell can the gov steal 40% of the money?

How does that work?
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02-18-2015 , 02:21 AM
cuz merica
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02-18-2015 , 04:57 PM
Another one just posted at CBS Miami today. SWAT team throws grenades into the home of a 90 y/o woman. Nothing illegal found.

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2015/02/17...-find-nothing/
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