Hi 2+2,

I play HUNL on Merge.
I suspect that there is something fishy with some HU Regulars. I cannot accurately point out what to make out from this info, but following post should give you a better idea.I am attaching an image of their HUD stats.

Also, I made a thread earlier today in the HUNL forum and many other have attested to my beliefs and had similar experience with the players in question.It has been widely suggested and concluded to some extent that they all are bots.
Suspected Foul Play at Merge


The 5 suspected on whom I have a good sample players are:
Slawomir
GhettoBlaster
N1xDSD1
coldasice22
CaviarChamp


Here is what I have on them.

- All suspected players are from UK.
- All the suspected players started to play around 2 months ago, I never saw them before that. In two months they have become regs at 200nl.
(with so many better option available to UK players pokerwise, its hard to digest that so many UK players will come to Merge just 2 months ago and become regulars. )
- All of them but one are winning players according to PTR.
- All of them have almost identical stats according to my HUD.
- According to PTR search that I did, they all have never played against each other.
- They never chat.
- They sit out as soon as the effective stacks get 200bb deep.
- They all make the similar bet sizes in similar spots.
- I have never seen them quitting the game.
- Never seen them tilting even if they lose 3BI to me in 30 hands.
- I have never seen them bluff 3 streets with total air, every time they 3 barrel bluff, they are on a missed draw.
- They never check-raise as a bluff, they always have some equity.
- Never seen them tank.

About theirs stats and similarity in their play.

- Their PF BTN raising and calling range on the Big Blind has uncanny similarity(BTN: 80%, BB: 44%).
- Their donking range on the flop/turn is almost identical(DBF: 1% .DBT: 4%)
- Their stats for check-raising the flop and the turn are almost identical( Flop: 12%, Turn: 2%)

- All of them 3 bet 15% and they play 3 bet pots in the similar way(everytime,no outliers whatsoever).Following are the tendencies they display in 3 betpots.
------ they c-bet almost to pot whenever they have a draw/overpair(inside and openended) or they hit TP, they dont c-bet as a bluff.
------ they shove turn if they had c-bet the flop regardless of whether they hit the draw or not.
------ they shove the turn with the nuts too(even if they have sufficient evidence that they are far ahead of my range).

- All of them have the same 4 betting range AQo+ and 99+,they never 4 bet with any other hands regardless of the match dynamics(they dont 4 bet shove with these hands).
- They all 4 bet shove 22-66/77.
- Their 3betting and 4betting ranges never change. It doesn't matter if I start 3betting 25%+, they still wont open up their 4 betting range.

I am not quite sure how to do statistical analysis of the HH that I have, if anyone is interested or has a similar experience, I can provide HH for further examination.

All those who think that I am complaining coz I am losing money to them are wrong, I am losing money to just one of those 5 players and winning against all others. I will post HM screenshots if needed.

I have played with many different players and there never seems to be such uncanny similarity/consistency among so many regs playing on a site(same stakes, same country) at similar hours during the day.

I am willing to post HH/other HM data to substantiate my claim.




I cread a thread about this in HUNL forum today at 1:38am CDT.
Suspected Foul Play at Merge
According to PTR, all of the players in question had their last session end at around 2:30 am CDT. As you can check from PTR that they used to play all the time before today and none of them has logged in today.All the regs(around 10-15) have suddenly disappeared?? How is this even possible.
All the regs used to sit for atleast 16-18 hrs/day.

There are some more players whose profile match the suspected players,althought I dont have a good sample on them but they too have disappeared like the 5 players mentioned.

Their Screen names are:
blisterer
HeilStalin
RussianFlower
WCToiletWC
RPMPMSRP
FOVAMEEE
chinatownqueen


please check the HUNL thread for complete info. I can post some of the info here if/when needed.

they play like that and never quit you and you are releasing this to the public? sounds like an incredibly exploitable strategy

Simple question: With so many reads on them how come you haven't taken their entire BR by now?

sounds like they are very exploitable why don't you just print money?

I have printed good money before I realized this.My non showdown winnings are enormous against all of them.However they were nitty post flop as you can see from the stats and they did not play big pots without a solid hand.



This is a clear question of game integrity which is destroyed by the presence of these players(bots)
Once I came to the conclusion, the right thing to do was to make everyone aware of it.


I planned to continue to take advantage of them.But as soon as I made the thread in HUNL forum, they disappeared. ahh, I should have known better,lol

Kudos for doing it.

Does anyone really want these nitbots intercepting the fish?

+1

Allow me to respectfully disagree on this. As long as villains don't have an edge on hero, their used means are irrelevant.

Imo, the problem starts only when they develop some edge over hero. Then their means should be investigated.

We are in this business to make money and have some fun, not to lecture people on integrity, morality etc...

They're strat will beat the fish, and it would be pretty bad to just say "**** it I can beat them, I don't care that they're cheating other people out of money."

Ur nice for doing this men.. Hope people support u

Luckily for the rest of us the op is a better person than you.

in before those are all of Girah's accounts

We are human beings...we're supposed to have integrity, morality, etc...it doesn't matter what business we're in.

I am not lecturing anyone. I couldn't have been at ease if I didn't do this.I could be wrong but I did what seemed correct to me....

I have invested N-number of hours playing with them and coming to conclusions,I could have continued to do make money off them,but I don't want people to be scammed.Also fwiw, I am not dependent on poker money so maybe I have a different perspective than the rest.

We beat fish because we use HUDs. Why is this any better? Who draws the objective line on what can be used and what not. Because just the "Terms and conditions" of a website ain't gonna cut it, as T&C would be the definition of "subjective"....

I really do think that you should stay out of this and let other people (including) fish protecting themselves. We are not merge's police...

Just stop before u post anymore nonsense

Girah is at it again imo

If you dont want to play against them then don't. What do you want people on here to do? Why are you posting this info here instead of contacting merge?

No idea why people aren't happy with OP...

ty for this

Okay, I want people who had the similar experience to come forward and help me and others at HUNL forum to dig up this whole mess. It was not a small operation,if you read the HUNL thread, this was going on on large scale, about 95% of regs from UK have disappeared after I made the thread in HUNL forum. If we don't get to the bottom of this, it will keep happening again and again. We don't want that, do we?


I doubted that merge would obv deny all this, The only way to get deeper was to discuss this with players on 2+2.


Do you really think that I played 35K hands with all of them combined if I didn't want to play with them?

You are so lol, so if got scammed tomorrow you would be happy?
I wonder why you did not ask this question to MossBoss, TooCuriousso1 and others who blew the cover on Girah.

Please stop posting.

If you are going to try to make a semantic argument, then learn how words work. The T&C are absolutely not the definition of subjective. If the T&C are your guidelines then they clearly are _objective_, they are, however [and this is the word you are looking for], arbitrary.

lolwut? this is wrong on all levels.

edit: and ty OP for bringing this to the public's eye.