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Old 05-22-2008, 01:00 PM   #301
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Re: Superusers and Silence: How UltimateBet let players get cheated for millions

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I'm surprised RedMan hasn't started calling natives uncivilized savages yet.
The simple solution to this entire problem...
Is to ship Jerry Yang to the Kahnawake Reserve...
And convert the savages to Christiantity.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:02 PM   #302
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MicroBob,

What if the backs of the tees said..."but not rigged like alot of you retarded idiots think. Why the **** are y'all even here, you have no shot at winning...don't talk to me."


Cornell, et al:

Very nice work. It's good to know people are keeping an eye out and willing to follow through to this extent. Thanks!

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Old 05-22-2008, 01:12 PM   #303
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Re: Superusers and Silence: How UltimateBet let players get cheated for millions

great work
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:19 PM   #304
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Re: Superusers and Silence: How UltimateBet let players get cheated for millions

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The simple solution to this entire problem...
Is to ship Jerry Yang to the Kahnawake Reserve...
And convert the savages to Christiantity.
the sound bite on the 11 o'clock news:
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c'mon god, one time.....
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:29 PM   #305
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I pm'd Admo for more info cause it seemed from this post like he knew something, but he said he couldn't say anything else.

So now i'll start the wild speculation.

(wild speculation removed)
not so wild speculation: Kahnawake lose their ability to "regulate" internet gambling as provided by the Canadian gov. sites like AP, UB and even FTP who use these guys have to remove their little logo.

not so wild question: does it matter? do any of these sites need a regulatory agency to allow them to operate? i mean, i understand that it is supposed to make the player feel safe that someone is watching the sites and making them play fair...but really, all of this is outside the jurisdiction of the U.S. anyway.

what are you going to do if/when it is proven that AP/UB were scamming and the Kahnawake knew about it? sue? in what jurisdiction?

this is all a firm grip and the promise to swallow...IRL Kahnawake matters nothing as to whether someone bets with site A, B, or C.

you get your drugs from the dealer that is available and in my state (TX) there are no dealers. all i gots is teh intarwebs.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:34 PM   #306
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Re: Superusers and Silence: How UltimateBet let players get cheated for millions

excellent thread, very detailed, well written.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:55 PM   #307
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Re: Superusers and Silence: How UltimateBet let players get cheated for millions

More and more scandal every day.
Seems the only logical thing to do is retire from online poker until it is regulated by the US Government. I have now removed all moneys from FTP and UB.
It's live poker only for me in the foreseeable future.
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Old 05-22-2008, 03:40 PM   #308
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Poker Pro Phil Hellmuth Featured on 12 Million Beer Cans for WSOP Promo
by PokerPages.com
Thu, May 22nd, 2008 @ 12:00am

"11-time World Series of Poker bracelet winner Phil Hellmuth and Milwaukee's Best Light have teamed up to give away hundreds of prizes, with a grand prize of a private lesson from Hellmuth and an all-expense paid trip for four to the 2009 WSOP in Las Vegas, using specially marked beer cans as the vehicle to promote the contest.


The beer manufacturer, an official World Series of Poker sponsor, is producing 12 million cans with three of Hellmuth's photos sporting his PH Clothing line and trademarked quotes like "I can dodge bullets baby!", to commemorate his attempt to win his 12th WSOP bracelet this year.

NOT MARKED CARDS- THEY'RE MARKED CANS!"

lol - the marked cards thing is actually from the article:

http://www.pokerpages.com/poker-news...omo--30781.htm
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Old 05-22-2008, 03:50 PM   #309
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Re: Superusers and Silence: How UltimateBet let players get cheated for millions

WOw just wow wow wow WOW.

Solid work, those of you who hunted the truth down!
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Old 05-22-2008, 04:02 PM   #310
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Re: Superusers and Silence: How UltimateBet let players get cheated for millions

Big Poker Sundays is streaming now (as of 4pm ET) and talk of UB surely should be coming up sometime during the hour.
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Old 05-22-2008, 04:05 PM   #311
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Big Poker Sundays is streaming now (as of 4pm ET) and talk of UB surely should be coming up sometime during the hour.
wtf? why is it streaming on a Thurs?

thanks for the heads up, Kevmath!
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Old 05-22-2008, 04:09 PM   #312
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They've been streaming on Thursdays for a while.

They will be going live during the WSOP on Sundays.
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Old 05-22-2008, 04:42 PM   #313
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Re: Superusers and Silence: How UltimateBet let players get cheated for millions

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Although MicroBob seems to have single-handedly crushed all momentum for a tee shirt or button

I'm seriously surprised that just one person [for the most part] disagreeing with the general idea of it has seemed to stop almost all talk about doing it.
I honestly didn't think my voice would carry that much weight and I would have thought that the people who wanted to do this would have expected a couple people to voice an opposite opinion.

One thought is that if just me saying, "I don't like that idea" and then answering a couple Q's about it is enough to stop the momentum of this then I wonder how successful the whole thing would be actually in implementation with perhaps different people accusing you in person of being shills for PokerStars or something and just trying to bring down the competition or whatever, etc etc.

Anyway, I really did expect the hypothetical designs and all that stuff to continue since so many people seemed to disagree with my assessment of the shirts/buttons so the fact that it mostly stopped that quickly seemed a bit strange to me.
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Old 05-22-2008, 04:45 PM   #314
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Although MicroBob seems to have single-handedly crushed all momentum for a tee shirt or button, if its still going down, I think instead of saying rigged or cheating, a shirt or button should say cover-up. Not only is it more factually acurate, it might lead to more curiosity as opposed to either an, "of course its rigged - they're all rigged!" or an "oh great, another online poker is rigged nutso" type of response.
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I'm seriously surprised that just one person [for the most part] disagreeing with the general idea of it has seemed to stop almost all talk about doing it.
I honestly didn't think my voice would carry that much weight and I would have thought that the people who wanted to do this would have expected a couple people to voice an opposite opinion.

One thought is that if just me saying, "I don't like that idea" and then answering a couple Q's about it is enough to stop the momentum of this then I wonder how successful the whole thing would be actually in implementation with perhaps different people accusing you in person of being shills for PokerStars or something and just trying to bring down the competition or whatever, etc etc.

Anyway, I really did expect the hypothetical designs and all that stuff to continue since so many people seemed to disagree with my assessment of the shirts/buttons so the fact that it mostly stopped that quickly seemed a bit strange to me.
Yes, but your posting volume and special "Insta-Response" (c) powers make you the posting equivalent of 15 people...
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Old 05-22-2008, 04:47 PM   #315
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Yes, but your posting volume and special "Insta-Response" (c) powers make you the posting equivalent of 1500 people...

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