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Old 05-07-2017, 04:00 AM   #51
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Re: Strange prop bet between Matt Savage and MIke Noori

Is it actually $1 per strip of bacon though? Don't you get like 2 strips when adding bacon to an order?

This sort of comes down to finding what has the worst calories-to-price ratio on the menu (eating capability won't 100% come down to caloric amount but it'll correlate pretty damn well). If the apple slices really are available and 15cals each then they win by a land slide from what I can tell. Menu items I would guess maybe the wraps? They are expensive for their size, and I think it's undoable via those anyhow. Would take too many to hit $1k.


edit: Someone who likes money should instantly book this against Matusow. Exclude apple slices. I think legit world class competitive eaters would find it problematic to eat just $500 of mcdonalds items in 36hrs. It's too much food and calories (go through the menu yourself and try to find a way). Matusow is drawing stone cold dead, as usual.

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Old 05-07-2017, 08:56 AM   #52
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Matusow is drawing stone cold dead, as usual.

I think that stone cold dead would be the perfect description if matusow tried to eat $1k worth of mcdonalds in any amount of time, isn't he like mid 40s with terrible health?
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Old 05-07-2017, 09:28 AM   #53
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Wasn't MM mid 40s in terrible health back around 2004? Or did he just look like mid 40s?
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Old 05-07-2017, 09:46 AM   #54
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How did matusow get it in this?
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Old 05-07-2017, 09:59 AM   #55
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How did matusow get it in this?
Mandela Effect

P.S- Why isn't the skinny Staples brother involved?
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Old 05-07-2017, 10:38 AM   #56
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Someone who likes money should instantly book this against Matusow. .

Ted Forrest would disagree.
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Old 05-07-2017, 11:16 AM   #57
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Get him to post/escrow. Should be easier to do with a $10k bet going down over 36hrs than the monster bet (time and money-wise) he and Forrest did. Yes I realize you're just being sort of ironic.

I'd bet Matusow (or any other person who doesn't regularly eat massive quantities of foods in challenge-like settings like this) couldn't get through $300 of mcdonalds menu foods, including drinks allowed, in 36hrs. People just haven't looked up the amount of foods and calories that gets you at mcdonalds and/or have no clue what humans can actually eat in that time span.

Would legit set the line at $300 for 36hrs for even normal "big eaters". $1000 is hilarious
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Old 05-07-2017, 11:39 AM   #58
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Re: Strange prop bet between Matt Savage and MIke Noori

I agree a MM prop bet might be safe with an escrow and a lower amount, but I couldn't help myself.

I also agree that $300 would be the line I would set for this bet; since we have about a couple of weeks left til the bet it will be interesting to see if there's any renegotiation or a buyout to come. I feel like this thread might create some good action on betting the over/under on what dollar amount he finally taps out and quits.
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Old 05-07-2017, 12:15 PM   #59
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If he did only nuggets:

$5 per 20 nugget box
That's 200 boxes of nuggets
That's 4000 nuggets
That's 111.11 nuggets/hour spread over 36 hours
That's 1.85 nuggets/minute

THAT'S TOO MANY NUGGETS
Yes but, to max out the $$, you buy the 10 pieces, the difference in price is like 1$, it's like $4.00 for 10 nuggets, $5 for 20, so you should buy the 10 nugget packs so it's only 2500 nuggets, or possibly, go with the 4 nugget/fries kids meal ~$4, so 1000 nuggets, 250 kids fries.

Still tough but much less food with this path.
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Old 05-07-2017, 12:59 PM   #60
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Re: Strange prop bet between Matt Savage and MIke Noori

the rules make this a little rough. savage tightened them up after i gave him the keys to victory on twitter.

the only way to win this bet is to find ways around the rules that savage didn't think of.

rule #1 is you can not eat any buns. savage didn't tighten the rules quite enough so there's still an exploit here. you can't order a big mac with no bun, but mcdonalds sells burger patties a la carte. so using the correct phrasing, you should still be able to order burgers w/ no buns and pay a lot for them.

rule #2 is you gotta exploit the POS system. if noori is smart he will phrase his order in this way:

"hi welcome to mcdonalds"
"hi i have a strange order but i'm hoping you can help me out"
"ok sure, what would you like to order"
"the first item i want is a 1/3 lb patty, a la carte. i want to add to it as much bacon as you are allowed to add"
"so, like, triple bacon?"
"no. i want you to press the extra bacon button until the computer tells you that you can't press it any more"

hopefully one of two things will happen.

he will win the bet outright if the POS allows the cash register person to ring up a single burger with $1,000 in bacon on it. even if they break out cases of frozen bacon from the back and actually heat up 1k worth of bacon, he could eat this in 1.5 days.

even if this doesn't happen, the POS exploit will carry you a long way. for example, if the cash register person allows you to add 10x bacon to each burger patty, there's no way the person constructing the burger will actually add that much. you will probably receive 5x bacon. the higher you can get the price for one single item, the less food you will have to consume.

the apples are a fool's errand, i'd stay away.

noori needs to train for this, the competitive hot dog eaters have ways of expanding their stomach.

noori also needs to pick out his mcdonalds and his strategy and let the manager know what he's doing well in advance. if noori is smart he will select a single item and order a multiple of it to reach $1k, no matter what the item is the mcdonalds will run out unless noori lets them know he's coming.
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Old 05-07-2017, 01:11 PM   #61
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Re: Strange prop bet between Matt Savage and MIke Noori

Wouldnt kids meals be excluded, since a good part of the price goes towards the toy? Also paying for kids sized drink over and over?
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Old 05-07-2017, 01:15 PM   #62
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he should supplement his binge with some kind of very mild laxative. no drugs, per the rules, but some kind of natural food substance that aids digestion but doesn't fill you up. maybe coffee? i'm sure there's something better.
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Old 05-07-2017, 01:21 PM   #63
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A good way to drive up price would be ordering sauce packets. They sell ranch, buffalo etc. IDK how much they are but I bet it adds up and they would be easy to eat quickly and not filling.

Order a diet coke on side because I think the chemicals in diet coke increase hunger and it would make you want to eat more.

Would they allow a mcflurry with M%Ms but hold the ice cream? you could def eat several pounds of M%Ms in 36 hours.
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Old 05-07-2017, 01:25 PM   #64
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A good way to drive up price would be ordering sauce packets. They sell ranch, buffalo etc. IDK how much they are but I bet it adds up and they would be easy to eat quickly and not filling.
nice! they are 35c each. i wonder if the easiest path to victory is just eating 2,857 of those.
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Old 05-07-2017, 01:29 PM   #65
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A good way to drive up price would be ordering sauce packets. They sell ranch, buffalo etc. IDK how much they are but I bet it adds up and they would be easy to eat quickly and not filling.
This is a legitimately good idea, but still can't help him win the bet. He could try to find a place which charges for ketchup packages (I think some mcdonalds do, some dont).

Assuming like $0.50 per packet (can't imagine it can cost more than that) that's 2000 packets. A mcdonalds ketchup packet has 15kcal. So 30000kcal in ketchup packages then. Which he won't be able to finish, ever.

Other sauces are a multitude higher in calories per packet. It just illustrates how ridiculous the idea of $1k in mcdonalds foods are. Only way to win is to somehow bend the rules/actual intention of the bet and angle it.

edit: if above post is correct and a pack is 35c then it's not doable.
edit2: To respond to doublejoker/kessler: It does literally not matter if kids meals are excluded or not. Completely impossible to do this eating kids menus too. Impossible to do this for $500 worth of foods from kids menus too.

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Old 05-07-2017, 01:39 PM   #66
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Only way to win is to somehow bend the rules/actual intention of the bet and angle it.
this is correct, but your analysis of the sauce is not

calories are not a determining factor on what to pick to eat. calories do not determine how full you get. you could eat a ton of iceberg lettuce, which has almost no calories, and be full almost immediately. this is why the apples are a bad idea.

sure, he might be the first recorded human to develop diabetes overnight. but he shouldn't worry specifically about the caloric intake.
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Old 05-07-2017, 01:43 PM   #67
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Watched some guy on youtube eat 25 big macs. It was 117 dollars so you would need to times that by just under 9 to reach 1000 dollars. Is 224.5 big macs possible in 36 hours?
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Old 05-07-2017, 01:48 PM   #68
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This is a legitimately good idea, but still can't help him win the bet. He could try to find a place which charges for ketchup packages (I think some mcdonalds do, some dont).

Assuming like $0.50 per packet (can't imagine it can cost more than that) that's 2000 packets. A mcdonalds ketchup packet has 15kcal. So 30000kcal in ketchup packages then. Which he won't be able to finish, ever.
Spinning can burn off 900 kcals/hr so if he's allowed to cycle while eating, he should be ok.
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Old 05-07-2017, 01:50 PM   #69
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even if they break out cases of frozen bacon from the back and actually heat up 1k worth of bacon, he could eat this in 1.5 days.
No, that's the thing, he couldn't. 35-40,000 ****ing calories of bacon. Not happening.

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the bet is a fool's errand, i'd stay away.
FYP. But if you were going to attempt it, apples is the closest you'd get without a POS exploit.

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noori needs to train for this, the competitive hot dog eaters have ways of expanding their stomach.
I don't think you're understanding the enormity of this. They train to eat something in the neighborhood of 10,000 calories in a short period of time. For this challenge, we're talking 30-40,000 calories or more - expanding your stomach isn't going to do it.

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noori also needs to pick out his mcdonalds and his strategy and let the manager know what he's doing well in advance.

if noori is smart he will select a single item and order a multiple of it to reach $1k, no matter what the item is the mcdonalds will run out unless noori lets them know he's coming.
Then why would noori want to let him know he's coming?

I can't see how this helps him win the bet, though. Is McDonald's going to charge him for things they don't have? However, if this does work, it once again points to the apple slices as one of his best bets.

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calories are not a determining factor on what to pick to eat. calories do not determine how full you get. you could eat a ton of iceberg lettuce, which has almost no calories, and be full almost immediately. this is why the apples are a bad idea.

sure, he might be the first recorded human to develop diabetes overnight. but he shouldn't worry specifically about the caloric intake.
Yeah, I don't think it works that way. Just because you can fill your stomach on 0 calories (water), doesn't mean that calories aren't a factor in filling you up. I'm not a nutritionist though, so if you can provide some evidence that you can eat thousands of calories of sauce without it filling you up, I'd love to see it. Until then, I'm not buying it.

That said, the bigger factor is that ~3,000 packets of sauce is probably a lot more in volume than you'd think, as well.
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this is correct, but your analysis of the sauce is not

calories are not a determining factor on what to pick to eat. calories do not determine how full you get. you could eat a ton of iceberg lettuce, which has almost no calories, and be full almost immediately. this is why the apples are a bad idea.

sure, he might be the first recorded human to develop diabetes overnight. but he shouldn't worry specifically about the caloric intake.
You're right, caloric intake isn't the determining factor, but it is a good guideline.

For example, the best volume eaters in the world can eat about 1k calories per hour over a 30-50 hour period. They do this eating the most calorically dense foods available pretty much. If an eating strategy for this bet then is higher than that in calories, no matter what food type it is, it's safe to say it can't be done.

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Watched some guy on youtube eat 25 big macs. It was 117 dollars so you would need to times that by just under 9 to reach 1000 dollars. Is 224.5 big macs possible in 36 hours?
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Spinning can burn off 900 kcals/hr so if he's allowed to cycle while eating, he should be ok.
I can't make out if you're joking or serious so i'm gonna ignore that lol
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I can't see how this helps him win the bet, though. Is McDonald's going to charge him for things they don't have? However, if this does work, it once again points to the apple slices as one of his best bets.
The apple slices is a good idea but it's a niche item, I doubt McDonalds would have 1000 dollars worth on hand.
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Old 05-07-2017, 01:55 PM   #72
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The apple slices is a good idea but it's a niche item, I doubt McDonalds would have 1000 dollars worth on hand.
He has 36 hours, he can drive around.

1000 packets of apple slices at $1 and 15kcal a pop is still the #1 way I see to make this. It's the BY FAR most expensive calories at mcdonalds. Still not sure even 1% of human beings could do 15k kcal of apples in 36 hours.

The line of $1k is just so ****ing far from reality of what can be done with ACTUAL FOOD ITEMS from the menu
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I wonder at what odds someone like LA Beast would accept this bet
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The apple slices is a good idea but it's a niche item, I doubt McDonalds would have 1000 dollars worth on hand.
Yeah, I know, that's been mentioned before - just another reason this bet isn't achievable.
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Old 05-07-2017, 02:09 PM   #75
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I wonder what the better has up his sleeve, since it seems to me he's drawing dead

5:1 odds more like 50:1 lol
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