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03-17-2010, 10:30 AM
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grinder
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 418
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Stoxtrader, I / we want answers
In the past three hours I have become privy to some information that leads me to belive that Nick Grudzien, aka Stoxtrader, is guilty of multiaccounting and collusion. I was approached by a source shortly after I posted some opinions in the HSNL thread where I voiced the fact that Bryce Paradis deserved credit for taking a stance / risking his reputation in this matter and if wrong that it may be out of naivety rather than malice. I now believe this may be one of the most -EV things Bryce has ever done, and I sincerely hope it is out of foolishness rather than malice.
My source, without a doubt, has been and is very intimately involved in the day-to-day workings of formerly Stoxpoker, now CR/STOX. This is 100% certain.
Anyone who knows me knows that I am much more careful of protecting the innocent rather than condemning the guilty and that I tread cautiously in these matters. I have never spoken out against any one single person in the community, even though many have done so against me. I hope that adds extra weight to my stance.
I was told many things and presented evidence on a lot of matters. There were many, many shady things being brought up, but the following, I am very confident about and considering the evidence presented now take for granted until otherwise proven:
- Nick Grudzien, aka Stoxtrader, has played, multiaccounted and colluded under the nicknames 40putts and gr3atvie3wbro.
- The evidence presented leads me to believe that he has colluded, first and foremost, with the account name Kinetica. That is the only connection I can vouch for as of now, I know there have been other account names mentioned (LittleZen) but that is the extent to which I was presented real information. My source tells me that similar information can be made available regarding LittleZen, but it is not something I have seen with my own eyes so I cannot therefor verify.
- The account Kinetica, belongs more than probably to a person by the name of Robert Papp, also known as Rob. If you know this person or have been in touch with him, please let the community know.
- Nick Grudzien, aka Stoxtrader, also plays on PartyPoker, which as far as I know, is a violation of their terms and conditions as he is American. He does this under the screename AutoCallON. If he colludes on that site it is not something that I am aware of or that was discussed. I would like to know how to proceed contacting Partypoker on this idea, if anybody could help me with this.
There were many other things said on various other people affiliated with Nick Grudzien, many people who have very high profiles in this industry. I choose not to divulge them as I am not as confident about those things as I am about the above, and they may be secondhand information. Even though I cannot be sure, as of now I cannot think of any reason why my source would be untruthful, other than a moral desire to set the record straight. If the things that I was told are even remotely true, this business is more disguisting than I could ever imagine. We are then talking about multimillionaires exploiting tiny edges and ripping people off for what is basically inconsequential money to them. I am thoroughly disguisted today.
The evidence presented to me is so damning, that nothing short of Stoxtrader completely opening everything up for the world to see will convince me otherwise, including the name of his other accounts and justification for switching them. If FT where to deny a connection between those accounts, I will ignore it as it would still seem implausible to me. I never, in my wildest dreams, thought I would be saying this just 3 hours ago. I wish to God that I could reveal my source, and I have to control myself in order to not post a ton of other stuff that while unsubstantiated my source assures me are commonplace with certain individuals related to this issue. I feel that would not be fair on them and I do not partake in slander. For me to accuse someone publicly, I need to have a very, very strong base to stand on.
It is my personal opinion that Mason Malmuth and twoplustwo have been trying their best to see this matter go as much under the radar as possible, although I have no hard evidence of it, and again, it is a personal opinion that I feel entitled to. It was something that my source felt was important to reassure me of. I will do my best to keep this post up in as many places as possible until Stoxtrader has replied, and hope others do the same and keep up the good work.
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03-17-2010, 10:33 AM
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lazy degen
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Flippin
Posts: 9,007
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Re: Stoxtrader, I / we want answers
holy ****
this will probably be deleted, but this is crazy.
Last edited by TheCanoe; 03-17-2010 at 10:36 AM.
Reason: im just pissed fwiw
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03-17-2010, 10:33 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 11,081
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Re: Stoxtrader, I / we want answers
That's how you win in tough holdem games yo
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03-17-2010, 10:36 AM
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grinder
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 511
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Re: Stoxtrader, I / we want answers
Why is it any of your business if he plays on PartyPoker?
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03-17-2010, 10:36 AM
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grinder
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Bluffing into quads
Posts: 513
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Re: Stoxtrader, I / we want answers
Will you produce this evidence in this thread?
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03-17-2010, 10:37 AM
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journeyman
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: austin
Posts: 243
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Re: Stoxtrader, I / we want answers
~i just want to smoke my bud and play my music~
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03-17-2010, 10:40 AM
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newbie
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 32
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Re: Stoxtrader, I / we want answers
[ ] Evidence
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03-17-2010, 10:40 AM
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banned
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 686
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Re: Stoxtrader, I / we want answers
IN!
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03-17-2010, 10:43 AM
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banned
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1,867
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Re: Stoxtrader, I / we want answers
traitor
you won't be getting signed for MY training site when/if I make one
that's for sure
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03-17-2010, 10:46 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grinding 2+2
Posts: 1,319
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Re: Stoxtrader, I / we want answers
In b4 mason malmuth
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03-17-2010, 10:50 AM
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See my coaching listing
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: confused
Posts: 19,071
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Re: Stoxtrader, I / we want answers
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03-17-2010, 10:51 AM
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grinder
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 584
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Re: Stoxtrader, I / we want answers
Boywonder you will be nominated for douche of the year.
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03-17-2010, 10:53 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: 大连,北京
Posts: 1,580
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Re: Stoxtrader, I / we want answers
This will not end well
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03-17-2010, 10:54 AM
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banned
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 477
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Re: Stoxtrader, I / we want answers
This thread has convinced me that not all Stox coaches were part of the collusion ring.
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03-17-2010, 10:57 AM
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newbie
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 32
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Re: Stoxtrader, I / we want answers
In again before evidence..
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