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Old 10-17-2012, 04:14 PM   #1
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Stars decides not to pay FTP affiliates

It's QJ so take that for what you will, but I'd say not totally unexpected:

http://quadjacks.com/2012/10/16/poke...s-its-problem/

“For those accounts where player funds are commingled with funds derived from affiliate earnings, The Rational Group will only be making the portion of the funds relating to your previous player activity available for withdrawal.”

EDIT: should probably say "FTP Affiliates" in title instead of just Affiliates
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:24 PM   #2
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re: Stars decides not to pay FTP affiliates

So assuming the players get paid in full then Bitar, Lederer, Ferguson et al stole mainly from the affiliates. This will be a fact. So Howard you are not out of the woods and you will still owe money to a bunch of people who marketed your site for you.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:32 PM   #3
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Re: Stars decides not to pay FTP affiliates

Doesn't this go against the deal with the DOJ?

I mean, isn't money owed to affiliates essentially player funds?

Seems like PS first mistake in this whole ordeal.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:34 PM   #4
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Re: Stars decides not to pay FTP affiliates

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Doesn't this go against the deal with the DOJ?

I mean, isn't money owed to affiliates essentially player funds?
No.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:36 PM   #5
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Re: Stars decides not to pay FTP affiliates

does that mean if i have a large rakeback / blaqck card bonuses on my account, i won't be getting them??
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:40 PM   #6
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Re: Stars decides not to pay FTP affiliates

This was always going to happen regardless of who bought FTP's assets.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:41 PM   #7
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Re: Stars decides not to pay FTP affiliates

sucks for the affiliates
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:44 PM   #8
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sucks for the affiliates
The only people who care are affiliates.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:45 PM   #9
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The only people who care are affiliates.
Seems like the people who have balances with affiliates will probably end up caring.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:50 PM   #10
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Seems like the people who have balances with affiliates will probably end up caring.
What does this even mean?
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:50 PM   #11
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Re: Stars decides not to pay FTP affiliates

This was in the prelaunch thread ~ 3 or 4 days ago. So its def true.
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:00 PM   #12
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Re: Stars decides not to pay FTP affiliates

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So assuming the players get paid in full then Bitar, Lederer, Ferguson et al stole mainly from the affiliates. This will be a fact. So Howard you are not out of the woods and you will still owe money to a bunch of people who marketed your site for you.
This is Howard's opportunity to step up to the plate. Wouldn't cost him much compared to what he's got.
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:01 PM   #13
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What does this even mean?
What part of it don't you understand?
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:09 PM   #14
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Re: Stars decides not to pay FTP affiliates

Seems strange that you can buy a company and the liabilities are not included.
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:09 PM   #15
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Re: Stars decides not to pay FTP affiliates

thats def good news. i dont mind the small ones but the big ones are just bad for poker.
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