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07-25-2017 , 04:49 PM
i am only getting silver chests now..
1 how can i advance to gold or platinum chests?
2 will these also require 6800 points to open?
3 and how do i fall back to silver chest again?
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07-25-2017 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Slugant
i am only getting silver chests now..
1 how can i advance to gold or platinum chests?
2 will these also require 6800 points to open?
3 and how do i fall back to silver chest again?
open 4 silver in 24 hour (eastern time)
no, they will require another amount. A higher one.
by not getting gold chests quickly enough
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07-25-2017 , 05:41 PM
Can anyone point me to cliffs on this

What determines if I get a red chest or blue chest or whatever?

What is this boost crap. Just it does mean I get more points if I play during a boost or whatever?

Is there any reason not to open a chest as soon as I get one?

**** this stupid ****
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07-25-2017 , 06:03 PM
your volume. once its determined, you need 4 chest of 1 kind in 24 hour (eastern time) to upgrade to the next chest

you get x2 points for x amount of points. when you finish your boost, you will get a new one in 8 hours

no, but its expires after 3 months
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07-25-2017 , 06:10 PM
thanks

are chests earned in proportion to their EV? i can't find anything about this on the stars FAQ

like would i be getting more value by playing a ton 1 day a week, as opposed to the same amount spread out throughout the week?
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07-25-2017 , 06:59 PM
The main difference is that you'll be using fewer boosts a week (or mere 75-point boosts on weekdays when your chests are red) if you grind only 1 day a week, so your RB% will be somewhat lower than if you used 14 big boosts a week. If there were no boosts, then yes, the RB% would be about the same no matter the chest colour.
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07-25-2017 , 07:45 PM
I'd like to know what people think that just start out with pokerstars and did not even knew, rakeback exists. Are they cool with it that you can get something back and even 1k or do they think they should get more?
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07-25-2017 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkMagus
Can anyone point me to cliffs on this

What determines if I get a red chest or blue chest or whatever?

What is this boost crap. Just it does mean I get more points if I play during a boost or whatever?

Is there any reason not to open a chest as soon as I get one?

**** this stupid ****
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Originally Posted by DarkMagus
thanks

are chests earned in proportion to their EV? i can't find anything about this on the stars FAQ

like would i be getting more value by playing a ton 1 day a week, as opposed to the same amount spread out throughout the week?
The more rake you pay, the higher chest type you get. Unless you stop for 3 days or something and start again.
I've made a thread to try and collect all the useful info on chests in one neat place, keep an eye on it and this thread too.

For some useful information go to: Forums > Internet Poker > *** Chest Rakeback At Pokerstars ***

here ---> http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...stars-1678823/

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07-25-2017 , 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by zvonjimir
Exactly why I keep saying Stars is just gonna get fishier in the months to come. People overlook the fact that the overall number of fish is not nearly as important as reg to fish ratio. What good is to have 50 massive fish in the HU SNG pool if there are 15 regs in the Sharkystrator cartel line and 2-3 ambitious newcomers (I call them 50% ITM players) that play really good poker but are addicted or plain bored or don't have any game selection and when you finally get a seat you play 3 hours of 1% ROI poker with them. That's why Stars was way hardest site to play on in all game variants.

Smart and persistent players will observe carefully how situation develops. For example, if they blinded the lobby I'd immediately start to put serious volume because regs would leave in droves.

Yep. The problem is always with losing regs. I think one that just complained here is a z16 "reg".

Bodog's thread is filled with losing regs complaining about the rakeback, while people are paying enormous amounts of money to rent accounts from abroad to play in their midstakes games.

Meanwhile i would pay 200$ a month in fees to pokerstars if the games could go back to what they were 7 years ago.

Here's what party's lovely staff does with cheaters:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=32381
NOTHING.
while stars is a good site, they banned Mixgrill after using a cheat on stream,and i posted about it.

His buddy Gazzy tried to tell him to hide it too, hopefully gazzy gets banned to.

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07-25-2017 , 11:10 PM
Link to mix grill cheat post?
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07-26-2017 , 12:11 AM
wait what mma used cheat?
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07-26-2017 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild Card
I've created a thread to collect chest data, and that also explains what Chest rakeback you get.

Please post what Chests you get here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...stars-1678823/

Thanks

The new post/thread looks really good Wild Card! Your explanation of the rather confusing system is nice and clear. Also, am seeing lots of helpful details - and am especially liking the little graphic of the coin flip lol

It's so thorough, don't have anything else to add to your lovely thread just yet - am still working on chest #3 Will be sure to post an update if anything new and unexpected pops up in a future chest.

Thanks for doing that - it looks like people are already finding it to be a helpful resource


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07-26-2017 , 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by dogarse
Link to mix grill cheat post?
His thread of 5 reasons why not to play on party. My post was deleted by our lovely 2p2 mod but someone quoted it on the last page.

I posted it like a month ago, took a while but stars gets the job done.
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07-26-2017 , 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by coon74
The chest to which you've advanced by 1% will remain blue, but the chest following that blue one will be red. Then you'll have to earn 4 red chests on any single calendar day to be upgraded to blue ones again.

Lol at the PR explanation invoking 'achievability'. The biggest consequence of a downgrade is the cut of boost sizes. The system won't let you have big boosts if your daily volume stops being bigger than the boost size.
I asked for a clarification and got this:

You can move up or down the Chest types based on your *last* completed progress bars.

- If the four bars all have the same completion day and are of the same type, you move up a Chest level. Your 4th progress bar in a calendar day will be blue to indicate you can move up to the next Chest if you complete the progress bar by the end of the day.

- If at least two progress bars have the same completion day, you will remain on your current Chest level.

- If the last three progress bars have different completion days, you move down a Chest level.

This process applies for all Chest types, except you cannot downgrade below Chest type 1 and you cannot upgrade beyond Chest type 6.
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07-26-2017 , 03:08 AM
1. Really nice job Wild Card!

2. MMA comes off really really badly here.

3. **** Pokerstars.
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07-26-2017 , 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by SalmoTrutta
1. Really nice job Wild Card!

2. MMA comes off really really badly here.

3. **** Pokerstars.
Sorry but howd you figure MMA comes off bad? ( interested to hear cause maybe ive missed something )

Thanks bud.
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07-26-2017 , 06:15 AM
Is root something to do with pio being run in game?
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07-26-2017 , 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by coon74
For those who didn't play for real money at Stars on July 1-5 (like me), their first ever red chest requires 200 pts and the boost is indeed on 45 pts, however, one day (presumably, on the day following the moment when the reward system will recognise you as a grinder), your requirement for future red chests may jump up to 240 pts, and the boosts will then jump up to 75.

It takes $1.55 in rake to earn a chest requiring 200 pts using a 45-point boost, and $1.65 in rake to earn a chest requiring 240 pts using a 75-point boost, so it's not like your initial chests have been offering a worse rakeback %.

You got the worst possible chest content 6 times in a row - you were just unlucky. The EV of a red chest is $0.15, so the EV of your RB is 7% for now, unless you only play when a boost is available (i.e. take an 8+ hour break every time when your boost ends), in which case it will be 15% ($0.15 EV for $1 rake).
I got 42 coins from my next red chest, I get what you mean now.

My red chests do take 240 points to reach but all my boosts are still 45 though. I've yet to see a 75 boost after 8 red chests.
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07-26-2017 , 06:55 AM
This is absolutely pathetic.
I'll tell you what happened...

I arrived home in the evening and went to bed, then played a session on Stars the next day.
500 hands at normal stakes, nothing special.

All of a sudden, my account is locked and I am being accused with violating terms.
I had not even played online poker in a month and did nothing different yesterday, so how can you possibly think I am cheating?

So I email Stars and they are acting shady as fuc k. Barely replying, not answering questions, refusing to call me etc.

Then, I see that in my Party Poker thread, fuc k face jesusdied4urquads had been making screenshots of me when I streamed. I had some kind of PT4 bug that added some weird stripes on my screen.

I assume someone showed Stars support tha, and this makes me a cheater?
Nevermind that I play quickly but don't play massive amounts of reg games vs crushers. Yeah, a random bugs means everything.
And if I were somehow cheating, do you really think I would turn that software on when my screen is being recorded?

And yes, I sent Jesus that email. He can go fuc k himself.
Mind your own business. Why are you taking pictures of people's setup, to then post it on a public forum?

Last edited by Mixgrill; 07-26-2017 at 07:06 AM.
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07-26-2017 , 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jesusdied4urquads
Yep. The problem is always with losing regs. I think one that just complained here is a z16 "reg".

Bodog's thread is filled with losing regs complaining about the rakeback, while people are paying enormous amounts of money to rent accounts from abroad to play in their midstakes games.

Meanwhile i would pay 200$ a month in fees to pokerstars if the games could go back to what they were 7 years ago.

Here's what party's lovely staff does with cheaters:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=32381
NOTHING.
while stars is a good site, they banned Mixgrill after using a cheat on stream,and i posted about it.

His buddy Gazzy tried to tell him to hide it too, hopefully gazzy gets banned to.

Hi Maxime. Not too busy scamming the Cambodian brothers? Xxx
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07-26-2017 , 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Mixgrill
I had some kind of PT4 bug that added some weird stripes on my screen.
Well, i guess if it would only have been a PT4-bug your account on Stars wouldn't have been banned as certainly other PT4-users would have experienced similar "weird stripes".
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07-26-2017 , 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by FR-Nit
Well, i guess if it would only have been a PT4-bug your account on Stars wouldn't have been banned as certainly other PT4-users would have experienced similar "weird stripes".
Who knows. I updated PT4 when I came back and the problem was gone.
Maybe it was TN or Star shelper, I don't know for sure.

But I don't see how weird stripes equal GTO bot, but thanks for the compliment I guess.
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07-26-2017 , 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Mixgrill
This is absolutely pathetic.
I'll tell you what happened...

I arrived home in the evening and went to bed, then played a session on Stars the next day.
500 hands at normal stakes, nothing special.

All of a sudden, my account is locked and I am being accused with violating terms.
I had not even played online poker in a month and did nothing different yesterday, so how can you possibly think I am cheating?

So I email Stars and they are acting shady as fuc k. Barely replying, not answering questions, refusing to call me etc.

Then, I see that in my Party Poker thread, fuc k face jesusdied4urquads had been making screenshots of me when I streamed. I had some kind of PT4 bug that added some weird stripes on my screen.

I assume someone showed Stars support tha, and this makes me a cheater?
Nevermind that I play quickly but don't play massive amounts of reg games vs crushers. Yeah, a random bugs means everything.
And if I were somehow cheating, do you really think I would turn that software on when my screen is being recorded?

And yes, I sent Jesus that email. He can go fuc k himself.
Mind your own business. Why are you taking pictures of people's setup, to then post it on a public forum?
Yes. Alec Torelli cheated on PNIA with potentially thousands watching.
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07-26-2017 , 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Adjusted
Yes. Alec Torelli cheated on PNIA with potentially thousands watching.
How dare you bringing my hero name into this..!!??
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07-26-2017 , 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by pontylad
Is root something to do with pio being run in game?
The program Mixgrill is using is some sort of screenscrapper that let you creat input for some programs in real time . What he used the info for (e.g. some sort of in game solver) that would give you in game advice is open question.

Look at each highlighted area by the program Mixgrill uses (community cards,cards-so who is the pot, pot size blinds etc etc.) so basically scrapping for all the info for something (we don't know for what)

Basically he was trying to get the same data bots get to be able to make real time decisions (Stars+HM let you read hand histories after the hand so useless for it). How he used the output is an open question.


And BTW Mixgrill you cheated you got caught because of your own mistake. At least own it now instead of playing dumb.

Anyway I think mods should clean the thread off the off top maybe someone could create a thread about it e.g. high stakes crusher banned on P* or whatever. It doesn't belong here.

Last edited by KptBomba; 07-26-2017 at 08:23 AM.
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