Exactly,...river air bluffs are happening more in live play also. I ran into it last night at the Turning Stone Casino.
After crawling back to even after being down $1100.00 in a $2-$5 $500 max NL
game, i was delt KQ os.
Flop comes Kh and 2 lower clubs,....and i bet $125 and one guy calls. Turn a
7h and i bet $150, ....he calls.
River comes a Qc , i bet $300 and he shoves remaining $680! The Q gave me top 2 pair (K's Q's) but the Qc made a club flush possible. For weeks i had been having jokers push me off decent pots when i had pretty good hands,.....just playing "too" safe.
At our casino it's OK to turn over your cards when 1on1, and i showed the rest of the table what my delema was. The all in bettor was like a statue, and i couldn't get a read on him for any help. After a minute or so i finally decided to honor the promise i made to myself a few days before, that when i was fairly strong the all in bet would have to "earn" the pot.
I called the $680 all in,.....and he said "you got it". He was on a straight draw and missed. I picked up over $1000 in profit that hand,.....and made my night.
Tough call for sure, especially since i had been beaten up a few days earlier by a father/son at the same table,....both when i had poc AA
With the father i flopped a set of A's, to a AQT flop. I bet the pot of $400, and he raises all in! I call my remaining $550 or so and found i was behind. He flopped Broadway,....urggrrrrr!!!! Didn't pair the board so that hurt.
Five hands later i get poc AA again and preflop raise $125,.....and the son calls me.
Flop comes KJT rainbow and i bet $300,.....he raises me all in. I call my remaining $425 and he flopped same Broadway straight!,......shoot me now!!! Two hands poc AA in 10 minutes and i'm down $1900 or so. What a night!
Anyway,.....all this previous action went thru my mind when i decided to call that river Qc all in last night.
.....sometimes you just have to squeeze your butt cheeks together and make
......sometimes you're up against air, sometimes you're beat,......but
i sleep better knowing i don't just give it up without a reasonable fight.
Originally Posted by masterdonk
What I was thinking exactly.
I'm all for bluffcatching herocalls against hyperaggro players ( or should I say, THE hyper aggro player ), but wait until you can at least beat his entire bluffing range...
While I do not agree with the call, this is not what poker has evolved to, it's what poker always was, i.e. when your opponent overshove bluff the river every other hand, you have to call him lighter.
Thing is, as mentionned, he couldn't even beat all his bluffs, and Isildur plays like it regularly, it's not like it's a one time only shot... Fold and wait for a better hand... He'll do it again when you beat 100% of his bluffs and some of his value range.