I see what you guys are saying, but if you re-read bamalover72's first post, she (he ?) used the word "fiancee", so that could explain the third-person reference to "i said fiancee". Seems awkward and maybe a little suspicious, but certainly not conclusive proof there is one person behind both identities, imo.

I have no clue what's really going on here, but Will could definitely be a legit victim here (or yeah, he could be involved in the scam). I've long since learned to believe in the impossible and unbelievable, especially with all the daily/weekly/monthly drama in NVG and the poker world at large.

Sucks that there is usually a victim who's getting screwed in these trainwrecks. But I can't stop watching.

Will, I am not out to get you. I am out to get whoever hacked my AIM.

Hey Jonathan...since I now KNOW you are reading this. WILL (me) and CHERYL (fiance) are NOT THE SAME PEOPLE YOU CLOWN! Look...I have already contacted the police. YOU AND I have both been screwed. If you want to work on this TOGETHER...FINE...YOU CALL ME! I did not GET OVER ON YOU! I am out $530! TRYING TO HELP YOU! And yea...I agree, we dont KNOW EACH other very well, at all. But I sure didnt ever have anything against you. And I dont know the FIRST DAMN thing ABOUT hacking! STOP TRYING TO BLAME FOR THIS MAN! THE WORST OF YOUR problems is what? You got your AIM hacked? Did you lose any money like I did? I dont think so! I am not posting this WU wire on here because most of these people are jackassses. But I WILL email it to YOU and/or Shannon if that will help. I will keep this between us as much as possible. I have gone from 7:30pm last night, to wanting to punch you in the face for scamming me out of $550,which didnt make ANY SENSE TO ME for a guy who won 1.5m last year....to wanting to punch you in the face for THINKING I WOULD TRY TO RIP YOU or ANYONE ELSE OFF! GIVE ME A FLIPPING BREAK MAN! You want to talk to CHERYL...call me bud. CALL ME! And if you want to go after this person...lets get the police involved, as far as I know...they have internet cops dont they? Who track down IP addresses and stuff? Maybe if they come examine my computer they can do that. I dont care THAT MUCH about the $500 I lost...what I do care about is this piece of crap running this scam on the countless others who might give away their last $500! hell he only ASKED for $375...in exchange for $750 on Stars...and I felt like I was taking advantage of HIM and sent $500. YEAH! HOW STUPID AM I!!!!???? You want to deal with this Jonathan, please contact me! Quit slamming ME ON HERRE! Or I swear to God the next time you see me...you're going to wish you had! I would MUCH rather be your friend then your adversary...but that choice is yours man. Put an end to this BS!

i think the witch hunt mentality of why would he try to defend himself so vehemently if he were innocent is retarded.

that being said, there are too many inconsistencies (fiance reference?) and coincidences (phone number, ftp/stars accounts, randomly helping out someone he talked to 2 yrs ago) to believe this guy. you people are too easily swayed by someone because he invented an AIM conversation. he also invented a 2nd 2p2 account, so imagining the AIM conversation isn't too difficult either, huh?

GUILTY imo.

Also, Will, you seem like a clown. If you're actually innocent, quit yelling at people and insulting them and start posting western union receipts and helping to figure out who it is. It doesn't even take a very high IQ to figure that out.

Plus, monkey spells it "fiance" and bama spells it "fiancee" (consistently I believe) so that strengthens the case for two different people (or a VERY subtle and sophisticated scam). Which is more likely? I'm leaning towards Will as a victim here (we'll see how it plays out).

funny how you now need the help of the same community you helped steal hundreds of thousands of dollars from.

And post paragraphs please...

To you people...you "2+2'ers"....first what the hell is TLDR..??? I guess I dont speak computer dork/geek or I would know...I dont give a RATSASSS if I am offending the 2+2'ers! I am speaking in this hostile tone...if that is what you are referring to...becuase I am FREAKING @(*#&$@$#&@#$*( out of my mind with this! And you jerks that just keep piling on with your little hair-brained conspiracy theories...what in the HELL do you people do with your lives anyway? REALLY? Im curios? I just wonder what % of our country is THIS sick in the head! Im freaking out because I am hiding something? YEAH....hey dumbasses...if I was GUILTY OF THIS...I would (a) never have posted a WORD! and (b) would NEVER have gotten caught...because I am a little smarter than that! Sometimes when people are innocent of something...THEY FREAK OUT!!!!!!! I have never known anyone innocent to sit there and be all...."why no, no sir, it twas not me involved with such shenanigans. I must respectfully deny your allegations"

IM DONE WITH YOU CLOWNS! I AM ONLY DEALING WITH JONATHAN AND SHANNON! AND THEY KNOW HOW TO GET AHOLD OF ME! ITS A SUNNY DAY AND I AM GOING OUTSIDE TO THROW JASPER THE BALL AND THEN TO THE GYM!

Goddamn PokerMonkey, stop posting your worthless drivel in this thread and just PM Jonathan to take care of it. I don't think you could come off any worse if you tried with every post you make. Grow the **** up.

no, I just assumed that if it is truly a hacker, my password would have already been changed?

Dude, no offense- but you are coming off as a nut job. What are you 12 years old? Eight final tables (I think that's what you said) and this is how you want to portray yourself as?

Step back and look how you sound. I know things are screwed up right now, but you could at least make it better for yourself, than worse.

Good luck.

For the record PokerMonkey, I think that it is very possible you are a victim in all of this.

Do you have any ideas though as to how it is possible your phone number was used in the original scamming convos before you posted it in this forum?

Once again 2+2 shows how smart they are. You guys are idiots the ones that think this guy is guilty. Do you really think that someone who was going to scam people out of money would use a screen name that will track down to himself. You guys are idiots stop the witch hunt and give the guy a break.

step 1: post picture of scanned wu receipt.
step 2: ??????
step 3: profit?

LOL @ all the people coming out with these stupid conspiracy theories against ThePokerMonkey. I would react the same way if I were him. There is not 1 thing he's said that doesn't jibe or make sense. It's funny how all the people bashing him or coming up with these conspiracy theories all have like 1000000000 posts on 2p2 and the ones that are actually observing this with a clear mind are lurkers.