Run it 36 times and add a couple of green zeroes so that no one wins in the long run.

If they did they would have to change their name to NotPokerstars

so how would you prove your ev? dead cards counted or not?

Deff Don't count dead cards as it doesn't seem fair to the site itself also Fish don't Need that extra info for this to Work. To Prove Ev is simple just run the math of how much Equity You have when all the chips are in the middle in fact some sites already do that . . .

Really A Reg Like You, (Prob being trolled) but I don't see why they couldn't @least offer it, no one has to use it, but if a Poker site came out with this as a Option I can Guarantee You they will have something no Other Poker Site Offer's and many player's will play there because of it . . .

I don't see the downside for the regs, you don't have to use it if you don't want to..
Maybe if stars could make some money here they wouldn't have to **** everyone with super high rake as hard (of course they would anyways though)

I agree You never have to use it if You don't want to but also for a smaller site like ACR, they would have a Option that no other site out there is offering that not only would Make them a Nice profit but also offer the ability to Market something No other site is offering . . .

You are delusional if you think they wont try to squeeze every penny out of everyone's pocket at this point

If they monetized all in insurance then pretty soon they will prevent people from running it twice.

Offering All In Equity Insurance sounds like a no Brainer for Stars.

It would keep people passing around money for longer. Say two recreational players both deposit $100. They sit at 100 NL and go all in pre flop with Ak Vs QQ.

One of them goes bust and does something else with his day. The other guy who won keeps playing.

If they both had insurance one player would recieve $43 and the other $57 (excluding rake) keeping both players on the site longer raking more of course.

Also it would allow players to keep playing at higher stakes for longer. I recently moved up in stakes, ran 10 buy ins under EV and now have to play lower to rebuild.

All in Equity Insurance would make stars more money even if they decided not to charge a commission for the service

if they offered all-in equity insurance anything like they offer cash out on sports bets i am not sure anyone would bother,i put on a £500 ante post bet i was offered less than £150 if i wanted to cash out before the event started,SHOCKING!

I Guess I didn't even think about that angle, Your Right The fish would have more Money Longer because they wouldn't be losing it as fast due to bad beats therefore they can play longer VS the Strong Players, Good Point Thanks for pointing that out . . .

mr. Digital, seriously man - do you purposely write your posts like this ? it feels so ADHD to me it`s annoying.

1 Post since 2011 That's Impressive that's not sarcasm I just genuinely mean it . . .

Welcome . . .


I have talked to several Online and live pros over the years now about this Idea fairly sure the HS pros online were just having good time saying they would like it on a reg basses, and come up with a thought I didn't take into account, for example the equity a Online fun player may lose in dollars at the end of the day is hard to equate to actual dollars it's better for them if they can get it in ahead and better for the regs also as the fun player can last longer . . .

Thanks for giving Amaya this sweet idea.
They can charge 1% and make a ton more money and weak players will improve as they will no longer be gambling so good players win less.
Ticks all the boxes so I think we can assume a Halloween roll out.
Cheers bud.

As a few ppl have already said it would affect the game dynamics, specifically for aggro regs who target recs bcos the aggro reg strat is yes to aggressively outplay the rec but importantly also with the massively +EV added bonus that when a play goes wrong and the rec gets their money in super good but then runs bad that the rec often goes on monkey tilt. This is such an incredibly important part of stacking and re-stacking recs.

Give the recs insurance when they are ~80/20 fave or better (which most will take I think) and as a good reg you've had a lot of their future potential monkey tilt and therefore your edge removed.

The only solution to this that I can think of is that the insurance premium (cost) is paid to the other player in the hand if they have opted out of insurance, and not to the house. This would compensate somewhat for the loss of future monkey tilt equity. But I doubt this would ever happen, Amaya would obv want the premium.

So overall, offering insurance is bad for the game IMO. Money removed from the eco system, plus good players with a strong mental game having some of this part of their edge eroded.