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Old 06-13-2011, 08:11 PM   #76
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First off, I'd be shocked if that sub sandwich employee story is true.

More importantly, I really think it's bad to glorify people like Sam Grizzle or even just to find these stories entertaining. His life is pretty sad and when you guys hear these stories and think "oh my god that's hysterical" you're probably saying that because you've not seen his day-to-day existence. It's really sad. He's the cautionary tale you should use to dissuade people from entering the poker world and exemplifies the broken-down desperate gambler that everybody fears becoming. Most of these stories reflect either a desperate gambling addiction or a man who realizes that hoping to get lucky on a stake is his best option as he's too old and too unpalatable to employers to get a job. It's not funny that this guy goes around begging for money and is constantly broke, even if every once in a while he goes on a heater and loses it and even if he has a dry sense of humor about his predicament.
Ive seen it. it isnt sad, I WOULD BE SAD (you would be sad i gather). grizzle seems to thrive in the chaos. BUT LETS SAY HE IS SAD. He never lets on in my experience. hes a semi angry scammy clown 24-7. HE THINKS WHAT HE IS DOING IS FUNNY. So why cant we find it funny? This is much different than laughing at eskimo clark who is in no way a clown and makes no effort to entertain or be funny. people who laugh at eskimo are sorta evil. can you not believe that grizzle is exactly who he wants to be and is doing exactly what he wants to do? that is the simplest answer and most logical answer. im not going to project my morality onto the situation. Many of my family/friends have thought or still do think I am some sort of degenerate/criminal for making a living gambling. Indeed much of society would think that. So who are we to inject...take a man at his word (just dont loan him money).

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Old 06-13-2011, 08:37 PM   #77
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Re: Sam Grizzle

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First off, I'd be shocked if that sub sandwich employee story is true.

More importantly, I really think it's bad to glorify people like Sam Grizzle or even just to find these stories entertaining. His life is pretty sad and when you guys hear these stories and think "oh my god that's hysterical" you're probably saying that because you've not seen his day-to-day existence. It's really sad. He's the cautionary tale you should use to dissuade people from entering the poker world and exemplifies the broken-down desperate gambler that everybody fears becoming. Most of these stories reflect either a desperate gambling addiction or a man who realizes that hoping to get lucky on a stake is his best option as he's too old and too unpalatable to employers to get a job. It's not funny that this guy goes around begging for money and is constantly broke, even if every once in a while he goes on a heater and loses it and even if he has a dry sense of humor about his predicament.
Who is glorifying it? Its funny / hysterical for all the reasons u listed. The fact he doesnt have self control and is a bit of a prick in speech is what makes him legendary and funny. I don't think anyone is sitting here going i wish i was sam grizzle, more like i wish i could meet sam grizzle.
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Old 06-13-2011, 08:44 PM   #78
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Ive seen it. it isnt sad, I WOULD BE SAD (you would be sad i gather). grizzle seems to thrive in the chaos. BUT LETS SAY HE IS SAD. He never lets on in my experience. hes a semi angry scammy clown 24-7. HE THINKS WHAT HE IS DOING IS FUNNY. So why cant we find it funny? This is much different than laughing at eskimo clark who is in no way a clown and makes no effort to entertain or be funny. people who laugh at eskimo are sorta evil. can you not believe that grizzle is exactly who he wants to be and is doing exactly what he wants to do? that is the simplest answer and most logical answer. im not going to project my morality onto the situation. Many of my family/friends have thought or still do think I am some sort of degenerate/criminal for making a living gambling. Indeed much of society would think that. So who are we to inject...take a man at his word (just dont loan him money).
This is spot on. I interact with Sam on a daily basis (he's my neighbor). And while he is in no way happy during the times he has little money and needs to depend on others to get into the game, he doesn't depend on money for happiness. As long as he's got enough to pay the rent and make his daughter happy, he's perfectly fine just being in action and being the center of attention at a poker table. So FF, I by no means think his story is "sad", and think you too would have a different opinion of Sam if you knew him personally.

Had dinner at the Peppermill with him last night and he had myself and the 3 others in the group rolling on the ground laughing all night. IMO he values his self worth on how he entertains others and makes them smile. So as long as were all still laughing, Sam's sleeping just fine at night.
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Old 06-13-2011, 09:36 PM   #79
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A new Poker "Bust outs" documentary would be fun and the entire doc should be his life story (interviewing others, some background profiling is mandatory). Because....Sam is the "King of Poker Bust Outs". He is funny as hell, though!!
What's the over/under on the "stake" he'd accept to participate in the doc and how many hours until he blows it?

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Old 06-13-2011, 11:34 PM   #80
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This. It may seem funny to everyone, but it's disgusting. The only reason he can go on ridiculous streaks like he has in the past is because he has absolutely no regard for the value of the money he's gambling with. What kind of opportunities has he stolen from his children by not walking away from the table with thousands upon thousands of dollars, on which the only value he places is funding his next adrenaline rush? What kind of shame and embarrassment has he brought to them by being publicly humiliated for neglecting his children to play cards?
But isn't a blatant disregard for money exactly what makes the best poker players so best?

And, who cares about how he treats his kids? It's not his problem, it's theirs. Maybe he didn't want to have them anyway, but the mother wouldn't get an abortion. Although this is called into question as he references the Bible much.
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Old 06-13-2011, 11:52 PM   #81
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rough quote....a lot of people died during this interview....
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Old 06-13-2011, 11:52 PM   #82
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I would love to see some more Sam Grizzle photoshops
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Old 06-14-2011, 01:19 AM   #83
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Great thread! I'll contribute....

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Old 06-14-2011, 01:43 AM   #84
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He played the ~$210 Omaha8 at Binions last week and made a point of coming over to our table and saying that there was only one good player at this table, too. His way of saying hi to the dude he knew there. It was pretty damn funny and I'm glad I have a Sam Grizzle story. I'm also glad he didn't hit me up for money or a coke.
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Old 06-14-2011, 06:01 AM   #85
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had to google this guy, epic storys all over net
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Old 06-14-2011, 06:31 AM   #86
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First off, I'd be shocked if that sub sandwich employee story is true.

More importantly, I really think it's bad to glorify people like Sam Grizzle or even just to find these stories entertaining. His life is pretty sad and when you guys hear these stories and think "oh my god that's hysterical" you're probably saying that because you've not seen his day-to-day existence. It's really sad. He's the cautionary tale you should use to dissuade people from entering the poker world and exemplifies the broken-down desperate gambler that everybody fears becoming. Most of these stories reflect either a desperate gambling addiction or a man who realizes that hoping to get lucky on a stake is his best option as he's too old and too unpalatable to employers to get a job. It's not funny that this guy goes around begging for money and is constantly broke, even if every once in a while he goes on a heater and loses it and even if he has a dry sense of humor about his predicament.
Tbh, the guy is ****ing hysterical.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOVL5...ailpage#t=206s

Most amazing line ever following Hellmuth's "Hold Em Champ" comment.

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Old 06-14-2011, 10:44 AM   #87
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Tbh, the guy is ****ing hysterical.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOVL5...ailpage#t=206s

Most amazing line ever following Hellmuth's "Hold Em Champ" comment.
good link...this guy on youtube has the first episode of 2003's ME...I'm not sure I ever saw this one early on.

(edit: I guess it's day 2)
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Old 06-14-2011, 10:49 AM   #88
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But isn't a blatant disregard for money exactly what makes the best poker players so best?

And, who cares about how he treats his kids? It's not his problem, it's theirs. Maybe he didn't want to have them anyway, but the mother wouldn't get an abortion. Although this is called into question as he references the Bible much.
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Old 06-14-2011, 10:52 AM   #89
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Re: Sam Grizzle

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But isn't a blatant disregard for money exactly what makes the best poker players so best?

And, who cares about how he treats his kids? It's not his problem, it's theirs. Maybe he didn't want to have them anyway, but the mother wouldn't get an abortion. Although this is called into question as he references the Bible much.
Sam, are we mad again? Tough night at the tables this week?
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Old 06-14-2011, 10:09 PM   #90
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Sam is one of the most selfless, generous, loving people who I have ever encountered. If you see him around town, spot him a stake for a $1500.
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