Russian fold quads in One Drop???? - Page 47 - Poker News

osefiwin · 07-18-2012, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chaser3

I'm not reading through all 46 pages here but why is no one considering 7's full either? Like why is it JJ, KK or 109, or flush? 77's definitely are part of his range, no?

Because 77 is consistent neither with the river play nor with the river read. If you want more, read the last 16 pages.

tzwien · 07-19-2012, 04:11 AM

You guys are doing it so wrong. Obvious fish.

NoSkill20 · 07-19-2012, 12:25 PM

Obv he has seen Quads vs Royal Flush vid...and besides he was given some "White Magic" tutoring by P.H. pre-tourney

illious · 07-19-2012, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LetsGo

I think it's interesting that Phil G says he's never seen such a thing when when he's folded a FH twice on HSP when really the only thing that could beat him was a better FH (maybe quads forget the hands). It not much different. Only one hand can beat you and you think your opponent has that hand. The odds on the hands existing are irrelevant.

Not the same situation(s) at all.

StueyIvey · 07-20-2012, 11:06 PM

i hate to break the suspense, but unless he is a liar he told my uncle who is a good friend of his he had JJ.

wallacengrommit · 07-20-2012, 11:37 PM

He easily could have had JJ.

This whole discussion is ridiculous, as it does not matter what he had, or what we think he had. All that matters is that the Russian guy thought about the hand, and decided that he was pretty sure the chance that he was beat was substantial. Based on how the hand was played, in his mind a straight flush was a very high possibility. Therefore, as it is his million dollars, a fold is fine.

If he was to find after the fact that the winner had JJ, then he might want to evaluate his thought process and reads, but based on that same though process at the time of the hand, he felt he made the right decision. I can't see how that is wrong.

fml95 · 07-21-2012, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by wallacengrommit

He easily could have had JJ.

This whole discussion is ridiculous, as it does not matter what he had, or what we think he had. All that matters is that the Russian guy thought about the hand, and decided that he was pretty sure the chance that he was beat was substantial. Based on how the hand was played, in his mind a straight flush was a very high possibility. Therefore, as it is his million dollars, a fold is fine.

If he was to find after the fact that the winner had JJ, then he might want to evaluate his thought process and reads, but based on that same though process at the time of the hand, he felt he made the right decision. I can't see how that is wrong.

No way he had jacks, who the hell just calls jacks in the bb 3 way out of position to a tom dwan opening raise? Not a possibility

Bonfini · 07-21-2012, 02:48 AM

Why couldn't the amatuer be happy on the turn for simply spiking two pair? Lol

wallacengrommit · 07-21-2012, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by fml95

No way he had jacks, who the hell just calls jacks in the bb 3 way out of position to a tom dwan opening raise? Not a possibility

My comment that he could easily have JJ was more to reply to the previous poster than to actually describe the hand. I don't think he had JJ. I don't think he had 77. But what I think he had is irrelevant. The dude in the hand thought he had T9s. And he could not beat it.

kamikaze baby · 07-21-2012, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by fml95

No way he had jacks, who the hell just calls jacks in the bb 3 way out of position to a tom dwan opening raise?

Um, someone who doesn't want to play a huge pot with JJ out of position against Tom Dwan?

JJ is very definitely a possibility, and it's really the only credible possibility besides Ts9s.

Davino · 07-22-2012, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by StueyIvey

i hate to break the suspense, but unless he is a liar he told my uncle who is a good friend of his he had JJ.

wow. I knew he was way crazy to fold quads.

COCOCHANEL · 07-22-2012, 07:04 PM

Regardless of what hand the dude actually had, it was a reasonable fold, IMO. I'm not saying I would have made it (I mean, wtf!--I'm not playing any $1 million tourney's, so I have no ***** idea what I would have done in that spot, really), but I definitely don't think the fold is "lol." He had a read, and he went with it. I'm not mad at him.

EDIT: I would have called that sht. No lie.

Mike's Side · 07-22-2012, 07:36 PM

I'm not folding and I think JJ is a strong possibility as I would flat oop with JJ some of the time.

ihateannieduke · 07-23-2012, 01:18 AM

Had the biggest name dropper in history at my table who said the guy didn't have the sf and based this on"inside information" but he sounded like he could've been lying. He namedropped russo, trickett. etc repeatedly. Hell he prob even namedrops Daliman.

Hardball47 · 07-23-2012, 01:33 AM

I don't get the fold and show. Is he trying to show everybody how good of a player he is by making that sick laydown? If I fold quads (I'll never be that good/bad), nobody would ever ****ing know about it. When word got around about this fold there had to have been other instances where he was bluffed out holding winners.