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View Poll Results: John Morgan had:
KK 74 6.09%
JJ 385 31.69%
T9ss 483 39.75%
Ace high flush 173 14.24%
Air 100 8.23%
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:01 AM   #46
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Re: Russian fold quads in One Drop????

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But if KK is almost impossible (his assumption he would raise if pf like 97% of the time) and JJ is not auto-shove, then there is only 1 possible hand.

Not saying it's a great fold, just trying to say it's probably not as bad as it might seem at first glance.
Exactly. Not to mention every one keeps overlooking the fact the businessman snapped the flop and turn bets. He flops the nut straight, turns the absolute nuts. Come on, stop focusing on the quad fold, and consider his flop and turn actions, and why he could only have one possible hand.... 99.99 % of players would never fold this, and is why they can't nor ever will be able to play on this level. Smirnov destroys the highest level cash games in russia and is friends with demidov and joiso. Holds a phd, and is obviously a retard who leveled himself because nvgtards don't understand the concept of live tells over riding pot odds etc... Noobs stfu and move along
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:01 AM   #47
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Re: Russian fold quads in One Drop????

I heard the commentating on this hand but didn't see it played..
I mean 1st of all, if he's so confident the guy has T9S, why even bet the river? Why not check call? Unless Smirnov's "read" didn't kick in until the villain shoved..

It's definitely hard to not value bet the **** out of quads on the river, regardless.

If the villain that's jamming this river is a pro, it's a different story imo..
An amateur like this guy could easily have AJ with the A of spades and think his TPTK turned NF is good enough to value shove the river, even with the paired board.

Folding quads to an amateur in that spot is probably a horrible play 95% of the time...I wonder if Smirnov still tries to make that hero-fold if the tourney isn't a $1 mil buy-in..

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Old 07-02-2012, 07:01 AM   #48
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This situation is the exact reason pros lined up to play this tourney. Pretty sure I wouldn't fold quads ever
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:02 AM   #49
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Re: Russian fold quads in One Drop????

100% THE NUTS trying to stack a boat. Fold of the decade.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:05 AM   #50
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Re: Russian fold quads in One Drop????

Russian folds quads

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:06 AM   #51
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Cool statement bro.

Hope you call every time you have 2nd nuts against a nit's push.
4th nuts.

Based on the description of the hand, it seems very likely he was right. I guess we'll see on ESPN?
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:10 AM   #52
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Re: Russian fold quads in One Drop????

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If the villain that's jamming this river is a pro, it's a different story imo..
An amateur like this guy could easily have AJ with the A of spades and think his TPTK turned NF is good enough to value shove the river, even with the paired board.

Folding quads to an amateur in that spot is probably a horrible play 95% of the time...I wonder if Smirnov still tries to make that hero-fold if the tourney isn't a $1 mil buy-in..
This is very wrong. You can't ever fold this to a pro cause a) he's gonna have a range that makes sense and [NUTS] is not a range that makes sense here. and b) if he knows you do, he's gonna exploit the hell out of you shoving every time your range is capped.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:11 AM   #53
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Re: Russian fold quads in One Drop????

the other guy prolly had Acxc and thought 5 black cards is good
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:11 AM   #54
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Re: Russian fold quads in One Drop????

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No, there is no outcome that makes this guy look like a genius. If it turns out the other guy had a straight flush then the fold is still insanely bad.
No it's insanely good. Can't fault a crying call here but if he was right then he was, er, right.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:15 AM   #55
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Re: Russian fold quads in One Drop????

Bad fold I think, there have to be other combos than straight flush in his range here, very risky to read too much into excitement on turn or what ever. In any case, folding face up is a bad move. You open yourself up for a nasty show of inferior hand by opponent and even if the fold is good, your going to get a lot of flak from people and then youre going to question yourself. Not smart.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:15 AM   #56
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Re: Russian fold quads in One Drop????

Imagine Teddy KGB's face when Hero lays down the Quads. 'The fack you lay down?'

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Old 07-02-2012, 07:16 AM   #57
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oh dear god forget about whether or not it was correct or incorrect i just pray this guy wins it and this fold becomes legend. folding quads in a million dollar buyin is just absolutely great for poker if it gets coverage.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:17 AM   #58
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Re: Russian fold quads in One Drop????

A nit doesn't need the absolute nuts to get excited. The fact that he didnt show makes me lean towards an embarrassed full house..
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:24 AM   #59
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:28 AM   #60
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"BRING ON THE RUSSIANS"!
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