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Old 07-02-2012, 05:12 AM   #1
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Russian fold quads in One Drop????

inexplicable:

Phil Galfond just witnessed the unthinkable.

“I’ve never seen a fold like that, absolutely not,” the cash game pro said.

At around 5 p.m. local time during the fourth blind level, Galfond was present to see his table mate in the $1 million buy-in WSOP event, Russian semi-pro Mikhail Smirnov, fold quads on the river to an all-in bet.

According to Smirnov, the action started with Tom Dwan opening to 32,000. Smirnov called from the small blind with the 88, and businessman John Morgan called from the big blind.

The flop fell J87. Smirnov bet 50,000, Morgan called quickly, and Dwan folded.

The 8 hit the turn. Smirnov bet 200,000. Morgan called instantly.

Smirnov said Morgan looked very excited on the turn.

The K landed on the river, and Smirnov bet 700,000, which was more than the pot of 600,000. Morgan thought about it briefly and then shoved for about 3.4 million total, which was about the size of Smirnov’s stack. Smirnov folded the quads face up.

“For me, it was a very easy fold,” Smirnov said. “If he had two kings before the flop he would have re-raised Dwan, because he’s been active and raising a lot. So, two kings was impossible. Two jacks, in theory, was possible.”

Smirnov said that he thought jacks full of eights wouldn’t have been such a confident shove on the river. “He was like all-in, no problem. Before he had been playing very carefully and tight.”

According to his logic, Morgan would have the 109.

The size of the buy-in was not a factor in the decision, Smirnov said. He added that Morgan seemed visibly upset after the hand, giving more validity to the fold.

“I personally couldn’t have done it,” Galfond said. “I’d lose sleep. But, I think it was a reasonable fold actually. There are definitely very few hands John could have had that weren’t a straight flush. Jacks full was probably the one that made the most sense, other than a straight flush.”

According to Galfond, the table erupted once the quads were shown. Dwan left the table in disbelief.

Smirnov, who has a Ph.D in economics, is a regular in huge cash games in Russia.

On Tuesday, more than $18 million will go to the last man standing in the 48-player field.

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Old 07-02-2012, 05:13 AM   #2
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:15 AM   #3
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Re: Russian fold quads in One Drop????

I'm just surprised a russian actually managed to fold a hand.
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:25 AM   #4
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http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news...-million-event
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:33 AM   #5
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its a terrible fold, what a tool.
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:35 AM   #6
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its a terrible fold, what a tool.
I wouldn't say terrible.. they are playing for a lot of money...
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We want less poker related threads from Davino and more PICTURE THREADS
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:38 AM   #8
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woow. Probably correct fold if Morgan didnt show his hand right?
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:44 AM   #9
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“If he had two kings before the flop he would have re-raised Dwan, because he’s been active and raising a lot. So, two kings was impossible. Two jacks, in theory, was possible.”

“He was like all-in, no problem. Before he had been playing very carefully and tight.”
Seems hes trying to justify it to himself. Even if the straight flush and jacks full are the only hands in his range, its still a call
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Easy fold.

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Old 07-02-2012, 05:52 AM   #12
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But, I think it was a reasonable fold actually. There are definitely very few hands John could have had that weren’t a straight flush.
I wonder which of the two great poker players quoted above people should listen to here...
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Re: Russian fold quads in One Drop????

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businessman John Morgan

Smirnov said Morgan looked very excited on the turn.


" Two jacks, in theory, was possible.”

Smirnov said that he thought jacks full of eights wouldn’t have been such a confident shove on the river. “He was like all-in, no problem. Before he had been playing very carefully and tight.”
a businessman is very happy with jacks full...**** he'd prolly be donk happy with QQ-AA lol

how does he say he's active and raising a lot...and then go on to say he was playing VERY carefully and tight?

sounds like someone trying to make themselves feel better...he lied when he said BI didn't matter...if it didn't matter then you HAVE TO call
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Old 07-02-2012, 06:02 AM   #14
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Re: Russian fold quads in One Drop????

i bet the dood had the str8 flush here, gn my s0ns

i mean he wouldve showed JJ or KK to tilt him, i know i woudlve
if hes 100% the dood aint bluffing, then what hand can he beat? nice fold son
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I wonder which of the two great poker players quoted above people should listen to here...
lol i do agree with your post...but it's galfond, dude is an uber nice guy and a smart one...he is not gonna say it was a terrible fold to an interviewer that he knows would be putting the interview out to the public for everyone to view, including the ppl in the hand...

my .02 on that
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