I think for advertisers on the site it makes sense for you to know secondary accounts. I am really suprised there is no such requirement. To me is something that should happen for at least some basic defence against this sort of thing.

I think the fact that such a requirement can so easily get circumvented is the major problem. How many people have access to multiple IPs on a daily basis? And how difficult is it to set up an alternate IP?

I mean, mods discourage the use of memes, but one immediately comes to mind...

FWIW, 2p2 admins seem to not like polcies very much and prefer to handle things (or let mods handle things) on a case-by-case basis. I think that this is usually a good thing because I think most of the mods and admins and assorted colorful screen names are good people who put a lot of effort into doing the right thing (in the remarkably frequent occurence that we are presented with a moral dilemma).

Of course, I don't always agree with everything that 2p2 does, and this is an example where myself and some other mods think that they acted too indecisively, but meh, I'm not going to agree with every decision.

Good point. Even when he doesn't have to he still can't help but make a stupid exaggeration or outright lie. There is nothing wrong with saying you are a smaller site trying to establish yourselves and garner some interest. Actually, there is no point in even explaining that since it is already implied with you purchasing a sponsored forum.

But somehow the fact that he has paid 2+2 since 2009 becomes a combination of defending his actions while explaining some sort of commitment to the community? Huh? That makes no sense at all.

"You used shills accts and tried to change the price range of transfers and basically lied and acted insanely professionally."

"Well, we've been here since 2009 to verve the community."

What does that have to do with anything? Seriously, just so dumb.

Answer the questions about the transfer stuff. Give a better explanation and apology for the atrocious and unprofessional shills behavior.

Difficult to give the guy any more chances to clean up some of this. Own up to your mistakes more sincerely and explain the part that nobody freaking understandably because it doesnt make sense.

Or...run away and hide I guess. Whatever floats your boat. Slimy poker site rep gonna slime.

Are you sure you are trying to attract/keep our business? Doing a not so hot job imo.

By forcing disclosure of secondary accounts of site reps the mods would know things were on the up and up. However, if, as you suggest, a rep then goes and creates a non-sanctioned tertiary account, that rep is clearly going outside what is condoned behavior.

The fact that it's easy to circumvent doesn't really have any bearing. There are more ways to catch this than just by IP. And if they do get caught then there is no doubt they knew what they were doing was wrong and should be dealt with in the severest form.

To put it more simply, you don't not pass a rule because it's too easy to get around. Site reps should be held to a higher standard. What's accepted should be clearly defined and adherence should be a mandatory requisite of being allowed to continue promoting their site here whether they are a paid sponsor or not.

This post is dead on. Unfortunately the bolded part sums its all up and i can almost guarantee its the route seth will continue to take. Don't mention any of this in his forum either - thats a no no

He is going to ignore this and hopes it goes aways, he wont allow you talk about in his forum b/c he is hoping his regs don't see it and he believes 2plus2 mods are on a witch hunt (and believes for some reason these guys actually give a **** about his skin). He can get away with this b/c 2plus2 admins don't appear to be forcing his hand at all and are letting him go on "business as usual"

fwiw it has been brought up in RPM forums (w/d & reg threads).

aggo and pokeraddict:
what qualifications, education, or licenses do you have that would give your opinion any authority in regards to market manipulation or regulation?

Before black friday maybe. Now 2p2 needs the scumbags money.

Good news everyone.... I sent an email with the link to this thread to the DoJ' via their web page. Hopefully there will be some interest and action taken against the rest of these crooked sites and thier employees...


And if you want to hate and troll on me... go for it, someone has to help you protect yourself.

Lol, Really? you need a license to know that somebody offering to buy as much merge money as possible at 75 cents on the dollar impacts the value of said $1. It obv can put a floor for what people are willing to sell the money for / its perceived market value if this guy is willing to buy "whatever you have at that rate"

Really doubt that is the best solution

certainly can't hurt. we need to try to help protect fellow players from scum like seth...

Leave the poker policing to Gobbo.

is posting Seth's PM out of line? Maybe but I'm going to do it anyway. A poster in the rpm withdraw thread stated seth owed the community an apology. I responded by posting the quote where his shill account was attempting to buy Merge money for 75c on the dollar and stating I wish he would give us a real explanation on that. He responded by promptly deleting my post and sending this PM to myself and to what looks like Bobo as well.

Hello DNB,

I have sent you a few messages regarding your posts in the RPM Sponsored Support forum.

Your continued posts in this Forum with allegations that either I or RPM Poker have bought or sold player funds at a vig will be removed.

As previously stated, this has never occurred and these allegations are without merit. There has been and will not be any evidence to support these claims. Accusations to the contrary are simply false.

If you feel that you must continue discussing this, the News, Views, and Gossip forum is the appropriate venue, and there is already a thread dedicated to this.

You are always welcome to post in the RPM Poker support forum should you have any issues that require assistance.

Best,
RPM Seth

I guess quoting Seth himself is an allegation and an accusation and not a fact?????

Would it not be much easier to address the question / quote and move on?????