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04-15-2011, 03:27 PM
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#436
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grinder
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 683
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling
Are non US players able to register like normal?
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04-15-2011, 03:27 PM
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#437
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centurion
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The Void
Posts: 150
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling
Yeah can't reg for real money is this a good time to panic?
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04-15-2011, 03:27 PM
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#438
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ELIte
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 45,001
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling
xposting this from Legislation. Wish I had more to add right now, but I don't want to be too forward without getting more info.
Disclaimer on below: I'm working with very limited info right now and have to travel today, so these are just quick thoughts. I hope to expand more with better research later this evening.
My thoughts (I've been quiet on the legislation issue recently on the boards, but have been following):
-This is really bad. This COULD possibly be (trying not to speak in absolutes with such little info at this time) the last shoe dropping on online poker (at least from reputable sites) in the US imo.
-Even if they evade the internet gambling charges on some legal theory, the money laundering and banking charges are damning. What they did was illegal (if the facts alleged in the indictment are indeed true), and they won't be able to dodge the punishment.
-The DOJ rarely loses when they go to trial. I don't see these individuals rolling the dice against them.
-This COULD spur on further efforts to legalize poker and be a net positive in the very long run, but I don't know. However, it did always have to get worse before it got better.
-It is still very early and we know little at this time. Things could rapidly change.
All in all, perhaps now everyone can see why the Reid Bill was an important compromise we HAD to make. I'm not saying I told you so and rubbing salt in very fresh wounds, just saying now is the time to press harder than ever while being open to a compromise such as the one we almost got in December.
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04-15-2011, 03:27 PM
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#439
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journeyman
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 232
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling
**** you government I cant even play on stars.
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04-15-2011, 03:27 PM
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#440
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: florida
Posts: 7,676
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling
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Originally Posted by dozer
No one in the U.S. is gonna get paid for a looooong time.
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my bigger worry is if we will get paid ever. can we be so sure that we will?
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04-15-2011, 03:27 PM
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#441
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banned
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: I has a get out of a KITN free card
Posts: 5,560
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling
I'm playing from an Indian Reservation within the US...
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04-15-2011, 03:28 PM
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#442
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centurion
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 151
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling
Im in England and can play atm without getting the notices
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04-15-2011, 03:28 PM
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#443
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: May 2009
Location: EVERYDAY I'M PONYIN'
Posts: 7,127
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling
won't FTP follow stars in blocking US players? They did in every other case.
Terrible day for online poker.
It'll just move elsewhere I guess?
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04-15-2011, 03:28 PM
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#444
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stranger
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 9
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling
how am i supposed to make money now all the USA donks are gone
great now i quit poker
p.s britain ftw gambol all i want tax free winnings as well ahhahahahaaaaaa
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04-15-2011, 03:28 PM
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#445
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grinder
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: OOP
Posts: 694
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling
WTF is this for real, can US guys confirm they can no longer sit in games?
EDIT: Just saw it above, nevermind.
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04-15-2011, 03:28 PM
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#446
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Saratoga Springs, NY
Posts: 4,785
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling
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Originally Posted by I_KISS_FROGS
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wow
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04-15-2011, 03:28 PM
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#447
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journeyman
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Quebec
Posts: 222
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling
I'm from canada et no problem to withdraw or sit on a table. seems its affecting us players only.
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04-15-2011, 03:28 PM
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#448
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grinder
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Shipping and Receiving
Posts: 655
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling
The FBI takeover page said the following:
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For persons engaged in the business of betting or wagering, it is also a federal crime to knowingly accept, in the connection with the participation of another person in unlawful internet gambling, credit, electronic fund transfers, or checks.
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Anyone w/ legal knowledge interpret this as FBI implying players are committing a crime? Obv impractical to enforce, but this seems like a new position if so.
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04-15-2011, 03:28 PM
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#449
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enthusiast
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 76
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling
so any updates from the merge network?
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04-15-2011, 03:28 PM
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#450
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journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 344
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling
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Originally Posted by Bluffzorz
I wonder what will happen to guys like Ivey and Durrrr. Or someone Jungleman who have couple 100k locked up now.
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Personally more worried about guys like me who have next month's rent locked up.
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