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Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

04-15-2011 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Tbirdx24
can someone confirm/deny!?

Confirmed. I can't get onto a table on Stars. I'm in the US.

Will not let me register for SNG's either.

This sucks. Would expect a statement from Stars about this but it might be a day or so while they figure out what the heck they want to say and whether they want to make this a permanent thing or not.

Ouch.
04-15-2011 , 03:25 PM
I think ppl outside US wont be affected
04-15-2011 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyNL
They're actually going down because of German regulation and some other factors. This is a big win for them imo.
04-15-2011 , 03:26 PM
Nice knowing you guys.... this is the worst thing to happen in the US in a long time.
04-15-2011 , 03:26 PM
"WE'RE SORRY. BUT DUE TO GOVERMENT REGULATIONS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY REAL MONEY RING GAMES"

OREGON.
04-15-2011 , 03:26 PM
holly mother no cash games 4 me either...gg obama fml
04-15-2011 , 03:27 PM
so if I have a check on the way in the mail that I cashed out 3 days ago then what happens?
04-15-2011 , 03:27 PM
"WE'RE SORRY. BUT DUE TO GOVERMENT REGULATIONS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY REAL MONEY RING GAMES"

OREGON.
04-15-2011 , 03:27 PM
gonna play the sick overlayed tourneys later...
04-15-2011 , 03:27 PM
Confirmed --- tried to join cash table and got the "Due US regulations game is not avialable in your area"
04-15-2011 , 03:27 PM
Are non US players able to register like normal?
04-15-2011 , 03:27 PM
Yeah can't reg for real money is this a good time to panic?
04-15-2011 , 03:27 PM
xposting this from Legislation. Wish I had more to add right now, but I don't want to be too forward without getting more info.

Disclaimer on below: I'm working with very limited info right now and have to travel today, so these are just quick thoughts. I hope to expand more with better research later this evening.

My thoughts (I've been quiet on the legislation issue recently on the boards, but have been following):

-This is really bad. This COULD possibly be (trying not to speak in absolutes with such little info at this time) the last shoe dropping on online poker (at least from reputable sites) in the US imo.
-Even if they evade the internet gambling charges on some legal theory, the money laundering and banking charges are damning. What they did was illegal (if the facts alleged in the indictment are indeed true), and they won't be able to dodge the punishment.
-The DOJ rarely loses when they go to trial. I don't see these individuals rolling the dice against them.
-This COULD spur on further efforts to legalize poker and be a net positive in the very long run, but I don't know. However, it did always have to get worse before it got better.
-It is still very early and we know little at this time. Things could rapidly change.

All in all, perhaps now everyone can see why the Reid Bill was an important compromise we HAD to make. I'm not saying I told you so and rubbing salt in very fresh wounds, just saying now is the time to press harder than ever while being open to a compromise such as the one we almost got in December.
04-15-2011 , 03:27 PM
**** you government I cant even play on stars.
04-15-2011 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dozer
No one in the U.S. is gonna get paid for a looooong time.
my bigger worry is if we will get paid ever. can we be so sure that we will?
04-15-2011 , 03:27 PM
I'm playing from an Indian Reservation within the US...
04-15-2011 , 03:28 PM
Im in England and can play atm without getting the notices
04-15-2011 , 03:28 PM
won't FTP follow stars in blocking US players? They did in every other case.
Terrible day for online poker.

It'll just move elsewhere I guess?
04-15-2011 , 03:28 PM
how am i supposed to make money now all the USA donks are gone


great now i quit poker


p.s britain ftw gambol all i want tax free winnings as well ahhahahahaaaaaa
04-15-2011 , 03:28 PM
WTF is this for real, can US guys confirm they can no longer sit in games?

EDIT: Just saw it above, nevermind.
04-15-2011 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by I_KISS_FROGS
wow
04-15-2011 , 03:28 PM
I'm from canada et no problem to withdraw or sit on a table. seems its affecting us players only.
04-15-2011 , 03:28 PM
The FBI takeover page said the following:

Quote:
For persons engaged in the business of betting or wagering, it is also a federal crime to knowingly accept, in the connection with the participation of another person in unlawful internet gambling, credit, electronic fund transfers, or checks.
Anyone w/ legal knowledge interpret this as FBI implying players are committing a crime? Obv impractical to enforce, but this seems like a new position if so.
04-15-2011 , 03:28 PM
so any updates from the merge network?
04-15-2011 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluffzorz
I wonder what will happen to guys like Ivey and Durrrr. Or someone Jungleman who have couple 100k locked up now.
Personally more worried about guys like me who have next month's rent locked up.

      
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