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The criminal bank fraud and money laundering charges are extremely bad. The illegal gambling charge has a legitimate defense.

**** Jon Kyl and the corruption that is US politics.

Regardless of what happens to these sites, it's going to be exponentially more difficult to deposit/withdraw for Americans on sites that are left. Any bank or payment processor etc with US connections will not take the risk.

Hoping a lawyer here will give us some false hope about how they could possibly win this case. That indictment looks horrifying.

04-15-2011 , 02:31 PM

#253

jizak

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And add Nevada to the places that passed bills legalizing online poker... The bill passed today... D.C. two days ago: http://www.pokernewsdaily.com/nevada...ndments-18777/

04-15-2011 , 02:32 PM

#254

hobokes

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrUndErcOvErRnG

What's FBI? Is it something like SNG?

federal bureau of investigation

04-15-2011 , 02:32 PM

#255

EN09

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I'm sure certain people are scurrying like chickens with their heads cut off right about now...

04-15-2011 , 02:32 PM

#256

Spenda

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for everyone who sees pokerstars.com as seized, are you still able to log onto the client and play?

04-15-2011 , 02:33 PM

#257

Go Get It

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Isn't the feds winrate like 98% when they bring charges.

04-15-2011 , 02:33 PM

#258

idog519

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This is F&*^ing BULLS*&T!

04-15-2011 , 02:33 PM

#259

CasualFriday

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pkrmule

Any idea what they are getting charged for?

Online gambling is technically illegal in the US. So its like limewire for example, getting into trouble for allowing users to break the law by downloading copyrighted music. Whereas these sites are allowing US citizens to play online poker.

04-15-2011 , 02:33 PM

#260

Boombox

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i can login and play.
germany

04-15-2011 , 02:33 PM

#261

AQsuited

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Flippn Corner

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...t-gambling.htm

Quote:

Originally Posted by dozer

ty

yep, no coincidence ...

this was exactly the first thing that came to mind (after the safety of my playmoney chips of course

04-15-2011 , 02:33 PM

#262

zappafan

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyNL

poker is my profesion since 5 days ago

My favorite quote in this thread so far...

04-15-2011 , 02:33 PM

#263

RangeyMcTriplmerge

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Go Get It

Isn't the feds winrate like 98% when they bring charges.

only after rakeback

04-15-2011 , 02:34 PM

#264

tercet

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So how does this effect non-americans besides smaller player pool?

04-15-2011 , 02:34 PM

#265

SnGFiasco

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LOL
America Land of the Fee and the home of the slave

04-15-2011 , 02:34 PM

#266

Hippy80

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Spenda

for everyone who sees pokerstars.com as seized, are you still able to log onto the client and play?

I'm in the UK, and I've not DC'd yet.

04-15-2011 , 02:34 PM

#267

Six Finger Nate

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You can still log-in to the clients and play. I can anyway. USA West Coast

04-15-2011 , 02:34 PM

#268

bjornb

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what a huge level

04-15-2011 , 02:34 PM

#269

GiantWalleye

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stars is working fine here in Minnesota

04-15-2011 , 02:35 PM

#270

vektor

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Spenda

for everyone who sees pokerstars.com as seized, are you still able to log onto the client and play?

yeah people are still playing

04-15-2011 , 02:35 PM

#271

filipinia888

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**hangs himself**

04-15-2011 , 02:35 PM

#272

EddieOB

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CasualFriday

Online gambling is technically illegal in the US. So its like limewire for example, getting into trouble for allowing users to break the law by downloading copyrighted music. Whereas these sites are allowing US citizens to play online poker.

If you're so "technical" please show me where online poker is stated to be illegal. This is not good news either way obv.

04-15-2011 , 02:35 PM

#273

bizzle03

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http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pres...dictmentpr.pdf

The indictment.

04-15-2011 , 02:35 PM

#274

cap217

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I like this:::

Jeff Ifrah, a lawyer who represents online poker companies, said he was dubious about any revenue estimates since they naturally assume that online poker players will migrate from their favorite site to a new one endorsed by a particular state

“Players are really loyal in this industry,” Ifrah said. “You really have to ask yourself what is the incentive a player is going to have to leave a trusted site with global competition to play in a site that’s untested and kind of unknown and doesn’t offer you the same level of play.”