Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling - Page 108 - Poker News

Yep, sickening is definitely the word. Government is just another arm of corporation now anyway, banking just one big ponzi scheme. You need a revolution over there, quick time. Weird thing is that to keep slaves happy you should always ensure they have the minimum required to live (ie. food, water, shelter etc). Seems like the government is just brazenly ****ing people now, and not too bothered about the repercussions.

Anyway, sorry for off-topic rant, but this **** really bothers me.

Our government is smart about it though.
Why do you think they're so open to illegal immigrants? The government knows when people come here from a 3rd world, or poor country, they're going to be very happy here (because this place is better than where they came from). I can't tell you how many cab drivers I talk to in the city (nyc) that tell me "wait, revolution? why? this place is perfect! it's wonderful!". The illegal immigrants are the governments army. They are the ones who will support anything our government does, because it's better than where they came from. It handicaps us. They take our jobs, rally behind our government and have absolutely no reason or drive to fight (and make 18% of our population, and rapidly growing). Granted, they can't vote, but they can sure as hell fight behind the government that's given them a new life and second chance. Sucks for us. And that's only about one out of the million factors we're up against.

Done posting politics though. I just hope we stop taking it up the ass. It's time to fight.

04-16-2011 , 05:28 AM

#2677

sobizzle21

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 493

Quote:

Originally Posted by wantCLEANmoney

what do i do w/ 50k fpps.. seriously i know im waiting for the $ but can i just buy a couple ipod touches and hook up my nieces and nephews???

yea im in the same boat have over 100k i was saving up for scoop but guess thats not gonna happen

04-16-2011 , 05:28 AM

#2678

breadandbutter

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,407

Quote:

Originally Posted by FedorViaMastery

Before you flame me, keep in mind that I'm not taking the DOJ's side, I have money on Stars that I can't withdraw too, but it is obvious that the people being prosecuted have committed crimes and they should be held responsible. Also, I can't believe more people aren't talking about the fact that Scott Tom STILL is in charge of AP, after all the scandals. Why are people still playing on these corrupt sites run by corrupt people?

You can't? You're from Sweden right? I am from Europe as well and I can just withdraw money from Pokerstars. Just did a withdrawal and get a confirmation email that the payment is processed. You didn't manage to?

04-16-2011 , 05:29 AM

#2679

FishNChips1

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,774

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sworaven

Any news on sites being shutdown within 48h?

this

04-16-2011 , 05:29 AM

#2680

nophun

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 378

At one point in the QuadJacks stream Dutch Boyd said something on the lines of hope PS/FTP can't pay back everybody so he would feel better about the Pokerspot controversy.

04-16-2011 , 05:29 AM

#2681

richestuser

self-banned

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 94

Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Citibank, Morgan Stanley, Wells Fargo, Wachovia, Washington Mutual, Countrywide can all get away with STEALING untold wealth in the US but a bunch of people in a ring poker game are criminals???

04-16-2011 , 05:30 AM

#2682

PokerSpaz

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 183

Quote:

Originally Posted by FedorViaMastery

I've been following this thread from page 1 after first hearing the news on a leading Swedish newspaper, and I just wanted to chime in;

All the people who are going crazy and somehow making Barack personally responsible for this; please understand that a crime has been committed and a serious one at that. The DOJ have pages and pages with detailed information on how Bitar and Company have committed fraud among other charges. The bribery charges are very serious and they seem to have a profound understanding on how they have done it, with the proof to back it up. There will be repercussions for the people involved.

It's of course very sad that the greed of these few people affects millions of unknowing poker players around the world and especially in the US, but please don't make it out to be some sort of a crusade against the poker community. The DOJ are treating this as just as it should; major corporations have committed corporate crimes.

To all those flaunting there fancy law degrees and claims that "they have beaten DOJ attorneys in court", please stop. Even if it is true, from all the information that has been released, the DOJ has been following this for a while and has all the information they need to win this case.

I would also like to say that I don't think there is need for the people to go crazy and start panic-withdrawing all their money. It makes no difference if you withdraw them now because the payment processers are being charged and seized as well, so you are probably lucky if you receive your money, but in any case your money is likely safe, even if you won't be able to withdraw them immediately. The government won't seize the players funds', if anything they'll seize the rake that was used to commit these crimes.

Before you flame me, keep in mind that I'm not taking the DOJ's side, I have money on Stars that I can't withdraw too, but it is obvious that the people being prosecuted have committed crimes and they should be held responsible. Also, I can't believe more people aren't talking about the fact that Scott Tom STILL is in charge of AP, after all the scandals. Why are people still playing on these corrupt sites run by corrupt people?

this should be posted a thread of NVG. well said. [Golf Clap]

04-16-2011 , 05:31 AM

#2683

Hamsterdam

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 205

i cant login to bodog either. its making update and it wont go through.

04-16-2011 , 05:31 AM

#2684

wyvo

veteran

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,378

gtfo troll

04-16-2011 , 05:32 AM

#2685

DKJ

enthusiast

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 88

Quote:

Originally Posted by fukyflush

THE ****

Seriously, can we get this guy banned already? None of this is helping, and just making the thread longer for people looking for legitimate information.

04-16-2011 , 05:32 AM

#2686

stackedyo1

newbie

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by FragsReaver

"Isai Scheinberg plans great exit for PokerStars
The Scheinberg family owns 75% of the online gaming company, which may be sold for $2 billion.

Tali Tsipori04/01/2006
The Scheinberg family, which controls the world’s second largest online gaming site, PokerStars, is about to make one of the largest exits, if not the largest ever, by Israeli businesspeople.

“The Times” reports that PokerStars founder Isai Scheinberg is “understood to have appointed NM Rothschild, the City merchant bank, to sell or float PokerStars at a price of more than $2 billion (£1.2 billion).”

Although a flotation of PokerStars is possible, the Scheinberg family probably prefers selling the company. “The Times” writes, “City analysts believe the huge growth in internet gambling is likely to make PokerStars attractive to both virtual and physical rivals.”

“The Times” says one potential merger partner of PokerStars is 888 Holding plc (LSE:888), the world’s largest online gambling company, controlled by the Shaked and Ben-Yitzhak families. 888 Holding declined to comment. "

inb4 ftp buys ps with rake

04-16-2011 , 05:32 AM

#2687

FedorViaMastery

enthusiast

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 82

Quote:

Originally Posted by breadandbutter

Well, I'm using NETeller when I withdraw from Stars. I'm not really sure why, but I'm still not quite sure about the taxation from Stars, so I'm using an international wire now. When I try to withdraw, I put in the amount and when I press submit nothing happens. I have no idea why.

04-16-2011 , 05:33 AM

#2688

hgtenhundred

newbie

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by FedorViaMastery

Yeah, you're probably right. I jumped the wagon myself but in truth, DOJ doesn't really **** around and you have to do something pretty serious to get on its radar.

Assuming DOJ is in the right, my only concern is why they did it so suddenly on all 3 sites. Are the 3 connected? As little as I understand law, you don't really arrest 3 thieves who robbed 3 different banks and say you're all related - you arrest them individually. So I'm confused why all 3 were treated as 1.

I'm also a little concerned about the fact that DOJ did not seem to care about how the players and the players' finances would be treated. If a criminal is arrested or charged with a crime he's guilty off, why would he turn over all his cash to the bank if he's safe overseas?

04-16-2011 , 05:34 AM

#2689

hiitsme

stranger

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 8

lol

04-16-2011 , 05:34 AM

#2690

SilentNoise

banned

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,992

i say we get Tzvetkoff whacked

04-16-2011 , 05:34 AM

#2691

Gary_Neville

veteran

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,959

Quote:

Originally Posted by ISmellToast

Ground zero

ban imo

Last edited by Gary_Neville; 04-16-2011 at 05:42 AM.

04-16-2011 , 05:34 AM

#2692

breadandbutter

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,407

Quote:

Originally Posted by FedorViaMastery

That's weird, it worked for me using wire.

04-16-2011 , 05:35 AM

#2693

PraguePoker

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 327

The DOJ are treating this as just as it should; major corporations have committed corporate crimes.

The DOJ is very selective in who they prosecute. Remind me of how many bank execs have gone to jail for blowing up the economy while stealing millions? Exactly....

But yes, if crimes have been committed, by all means prosecute. But it's crazy that the so-called "land of the free" can't log on to their home computer and play poker for money in the privacy of their own homes. Sad and pathetic, actually.

--JC

04-16-2011 , 05:35 AM

#2694

JimbozGrapes

newbie

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyRare

sell pokerstars and full tilt to blizzard

+1

Marine/zergling graphic decks pls

04-16-2011 , 05:35 AM

#2695

dudemanphat

newbie

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentNoise

i say we get Tzvetkoff whacked

haha also crossed my mind. I think it needed to happen a few months ago tho. Bit too late now

04-16-2011 , 05:36 AM

#2696

wyvo

veteran

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,378

i get tht from stars

04-16-2011 , 05:37 AM

#2697

RNauta

veteran

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,163

Quote:

Originally Posted by DKJ

Seriously, can we get this guy banned already? None of this is helping, and just making the thread longer for people looking for legitimate information.

If you do something do it right. Use the

instead of whining here. Mods act on reports, they don't read every thread all the time.

04-16-2011 , 05:39 AM

#2698

Takemusu Aiki

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,722

QuadJacks stream commentator describing Tzvetkoff as epitome of young rich Vegas douchebag. Solid discussion.

04-16-2011 , 05:39 AM

#2699

Sworaven

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 419

Quote:

Originally Posted by the muslim

PRETTY AMAZING THAT THE OWNERS OF POKERSTAR AND 888 GAMING ARE BOTH ISRAELI AND GONNA SELL TEH PSTARS COMPANY TO 888 FOFR 2 BILLION. THAT A LOT OF MONEY BUT ITS A CORPORATE BUYOUT OBV AND AM NOT IMPRESSED OBV. THEY SHOULD BE WORYIN ABOUT THE PLAYRES AND OUR MONEIS AND POINTS ON THER SITES BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT MATTERS INT HE END AND IF WE DONT GET OUR MONIE OUT NOW WE WILL NEVER DEPOSIT ON IT AGAIN EVEN IF IT IS NOW OWN BY 888...YOU NEED TO KEEP US HAPPY IMO

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